And the average attention span of an American adult is about 8 seconds? Some baby goldfish in a fish tank have us beat by a longshot.
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DVCakaCarlF
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If that.
Incomudro
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A mask worn outdoors all day in the heat and humidity of Florida would be terribly uncomfortable.
People also eat and drink - quite a bit in WDW which would mean masks would be coming off and lifted or lowered often.
I'm not sure how heavily it could be enforced to keep them up.
Incomudro
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That was the first though that came to my mind.
DVCakaCarlF
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I don’t see masks so much as I do general sanitary practices, once things open back up. Hand sanitizer, wipes, etc. everywhere. Before and after each ride, entrances to dining, and, maybe, a wash station before you enter the park. This is somewhat common on DCL, already. I never walked into a dining area without a cast member handing me a sanitary wipe.
Incomudro
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Couple that with a general lack of patience that's been bred into our population through the quick fix of social media and the devices we receive them on.
Plus a news cycle that's worldwide and 24/7.
There's just too much to take in, and in general - we just skim.
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Incomudro
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Dennis Miller once said "The average American has the attention span of a ferrett on a double espresso."
One of my favorite lines of his, or anyone else's.
Jimdalva
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I think that masks are going to be a 'Thing' for the foreseeable future.
The reasoning for wearing masks has changed. At first it was all about the N95 mask that can protect you from airborne contamination. But now it is recommended that we wear cloth masks to keep our own germs to ourselves .
Its not perfect, but its better than nothing. Some jurisdictions have given businesses the right to refuse service to anyone Not wearing a mask.
We have gone on line and purchased simple , washable, comfortable, lightweight cloth masks.
I am aware that if I am sneezed on while in public, this cloth mask offers very little protection. However if that person also wore a cloth mask , their sneeze would at least be partially contained.
Everyone please find a comfy mask , and wear it in public. Thank You.
The reasoning for wearing masks has changed. At first it was all about the N95 mask that can protect you from airborne contamination. But now it is recommended that we wear cloth masks to keep our own germs to ourselves .
Its not perfect, but its better than nothing. Some jurisdictions have given businesses the right to refuse service to anyone Not wearing a mask.
We have gone on line and purchased simple , washable, comfortable, lightweight cloth masks.
I am aware that if I am sneezed on while in public, this cloth mask offers very little protection. However if that person also wore a cloth mask , their sneeze would at least be partially contained.
Everyone please find a comfy mask , and wear it in public. Thank You.
cjack300zx
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Tough times never last but tough people do!
Masks also fail to work if they are wet, in fact they can make it worse as all that extra moisture allows the virus to live longer. If they go with masks, they are going to have to provide new ones after a person rides a water ride, it rains, or on a hot day when sweat causes them to become too wet.
Incomudro
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Do you realize how often a mask would be lifted to eat and drink in WDW?
A Disney vacation is not the same as being in an office enviroment, an excursion to a store, or a trip on public transportation.
It's a marathon.
People eating Mickey Premiums, Dole Whips, drinking water and the myriad of other beverages people consume in the heat of WDW.
Masks would be sweaty, and soiled with food and drink in short order.
People would be breaking the rules left and right in no time, and WDW doesn't have the staff to enforce any such rules should the put such rules in place.
Perhaps in certain areas, like ride queues it would be feasible.
Or perhaps producing one (showing you have one) or wearing one upon entry to the parks - going through security - would be required.
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As I mentioned in my scenario about wearing masks at Disney parks is that Disney may not have a choice.
*IF* the governmental authority mandates masks in public settings, then Disney will have two and only two choices:
1. Open and make everyone wear a mask, even if it means excluding those who don't or can't, and even if it's uncomfortable, OR..
2. Stay closed.
If you can't imagine Disney enforcing masks, or excluding those who can't (the tots), or if you can't imagine yourself wearing a mask in the heat or because it fogs up your glasses and it's uncomfortable... then do not go to Disney while masks are governmentally mandated. Or... live with no one going to Disney for many months because they remain closed.
The option of getting back to Disney soon with no masks is likely to be off the table... not an option at all.
I just don't understand the hand-wringing over this. It's the same "surely they wouldn't..." line of reasoning when everything was shutting down. "Surely Disney won't close. Surely Disney wouldn't be closed for two weeks. Surely Disney wouldn't be closed for two months.
We have to deal with the current reality and stop convincing ourselves that something won't happen because "surely it wouldn't!"
DVCakaCarlF
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As I was suggesting, a mask will be part of the trip, especially when flying, transfers, etc, but I do not see the mask being part of the attire during the stay.
happybear025
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I have been reading as much as I can and there is just no way Disney is opening on June 1st.
Until there is a vaccine, this virus is going to move through the population in waves. Yes we are approaching the “peak” of the first wave, but we will have to go back into quarantine as the next wave arrives. Even in the time between waves, you have to be careful and stay within your community. You’re not going to be flying off to join 100,000 other people who are all flying from all over the country/world. It would immediately jumpstart the next wave all over the country. The very idea is almost criminal; there’s a reason Governors had to evoke emergency powers and use the force of law to mandate quarantine.
Disney is going to be closed until next year after a vaccine has been created and distributed. I could possibly see a scenario where they open to very limited VIP guests, but as far as profitability: they would probably rather have the massive tax write-off from loss and take the inevitable government bailout to get thru.
I could also see a hybrid of the second scenario, South Korea has had great success with massive amounts of testing and extreme government surveillance. Not sure has realistic that is here in the United States, but we are about to see in the next few weeks.
Until there is a vaccine, this virus is going to move through the population in waves. Yes we are approaching the “peak” of the first wave, but we will have to go back into quarantine as the next wave arrives. Even in the time between waves, you have to be careful and stay within your community. You’re not going to be flying off to join 100,000 other people who are all flying from all over the country/world. It would immediately jumpstart the next wave all over the country. The very idea is almost criminal; there’s a reason Governors had to evoke emergency powers and use the force of law to mandate quarantine.
Disney is going to be closed until next year after a vaccine has been created and distributed. I could possibly see a scenario where they open to very limited VIP guests, but as far as profitability: they would probably rather have the massive tax write-off from loss and take the inevitable government bailout to get thru.
I could also see a hybrid of the second scenario, South Korea has had great success with massive amounts of testing and extreme government surveillance. Not sure has realistic that is here in the United States, but we are about to see in the next few weeks.
I'll have you know my attention span on that much coffee is actually very lo .. squirrel.
Incomudro
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I'm saying the rules - if they are put in place - are going to be broken.
I can certainly see good enforcement upon going through security.
Or in ride queus particularly indoor queus where we would be asked to don one as part of a spiel, much like putting on 3D glasses.
But when people are eating and drinking, those masks are going to come down.
How soon do they go back up? Who's there to enforce how quickly?
When people get uncomfortably hot and sweaty around their mouths, and people are developing rashes (masks are irriting to wear under good indoor conditions) masks are going to come down while people mop their faces and take a break.
How do you not see it if it's mandated by local law?
"El Gran Magnifico"
Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
That's exactly my question. And what deterrent is in place for those that refuse (well, lets say are less than cooperative). Expulsion? Fine? As everything else - self policing amongst guests will lead to chaos.
VJ
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"disney should let florida residents in at first"
passholders:
"disney will disallow people with fevers"
passholders:
DisneyDebRob
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Of course the rules will be broken. All rules are broken when people don’t care about others or following directions. I’ve smelled pot in the parks.. see people smoking every time I go(and I’m a vapor but follow the guidelines) .. you only have to listen to the announcement at any show..” please go to the end of the row without stopping in the middle” to know that a lot of people think it’s all about them.
It’s how closely will they enforce this if it happens and what they will do about it.
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