danlb_2000
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Is there any evidence that higher temperatures will kill the virus?
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Is there any evidence that higher temperatures will kill the virus?
Horizons '83
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Not sure that has been proven yet. Australia, while not nearly the amount as the US, still has 6K cases and they just got out in their summer and in the beginning of Fall right now.
eliza61nyc
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If we all pool the checks...maybe we have a shot at a couple of hours
If we all pool the checks...maybe we have a shot at a couple of hours
I'm in,. I think my check will get us a few dole whips
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flynnibus
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That is a different discussion entirely. It is immaterial to the suggestion that Disney should or would be liable to pay for all their expenses they voluntarily undertook to make a vacation because ultimately they are unable to visit the parks how they wanted.
How do you get from worrying about a DIsney bus to justifying they should be compensated for their time off work, airline costs, etc? That's where your 'what if..' completely falls apart and has no standing. Disney isn't going to dump you on the side of World Drive... but they aren't going to be paying people back for their vacation time, etc because they got sick on their own. This is rediculous hyper extrapolation stuff that has zero standing.
Then people are free to try to challenge Disney... and spend their money trying. "public safety" and putting thousands at risk is going to be a pretty freaking tall barrier to climb if Disney's screening methods are the acceptable methods from the medical experts.
How many are in this potential has nothing to do with Disney's liability on people's personal voluntary costs outside of Disney.
Everything you are saying has merit... somewhere else... That doesn't mean it's support or reasoning to justify your postulate. These are largely points about 'is it viable for Disney to do this...' -- nothing to do with what Disney would be liable for.
Your line of thinking would say you should get free airline tickets if you were denied entry to the parks due to crowds... but the crowds weren't REALLY dangerous. Sorry... That's not how any of this works.
UNCgolf
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As I said above, Disney likely doesn't require any reason to turn you away. That lawsuit would be a waste of time and money, especially if they refund your ticket.
I also did do a quick check, and as I suspected, Disney reserves the right to refuse entry to anyone under their sole and absolute discretion.
eliza61nyc
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so let's remember that there isn't a lot of evidence on this specific virus because we're just getting started but there are a couple of research theories believing that the virus is vulnerable to higher temperatures.
1) evidently its a very "weak" virus, the outer cell wall is easily destroyed which is why hand washing is so effective.
2) is related to the SARS virus which has been proven to be vulnerable to higher temperatures
3) like the flu we just seem to see a decrease in cases during the summer. maybe it's because we're outdoors more.
I know University of Penn is doing research on temperature and the virus.
https://www.nbc4i.com/news/u-s-world/myth-busted-does-heat-kill-the-coronavirus/ doesn't really say much but it is being looked at
Will warm weather stop Covid-19 from spreading?
Some people hope that outbreaks of the new coronavirus will wane as temperatures rise, but pandemics often don’t behave in the same way as seasonal outbreaks.
www.bbc.com
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networkpro
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GoofGoof
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Whatever floats your boat...it’s your check, you do with it what you want
Living there I would hardly call low 80’s hot plus the temp drops at night. I don’t know if heat does help but several doctors have mentioned it to include Dr. Fucci . He specifically mentioned heat and humidity. So I was just wonder if constant 90 degree days with warm nights would make these percussions necessary or not.
easyrowrdw
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In effect, they'd be discrimating based on medical conditions. That's not generally permissible. Typically companies need a job-related reason to make employees submit to a medical exam. Not sure where customers fit in to those protections.
I'm trying to think of situations where individuals are required to undergo medical exams to engage in commerce. Aside from insurance, I'm coming up blank.
Clyde Birdbrain
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If that is true then there are still a lot of cold inside places with air conditioning where the virus could spread more freely.
Unless they turn off all the air conditioning.
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peter11435
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Boarding a cruise. If a guest reports being ill or recently being ill they are subject to further examination by the ship nurse/doctor before being allowed to board.
durangojim
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I'm in favor of Disney doing whatever they think is necessary to keep their guests as safe and healthy as possible. This will be controversial but I think if they decide to limit the amount of guests at the park they should restrict the guests to people staying on site and AP holders initially. I'm in favor them taking temperatures or anything else, but I think they need to inform the guests when the reservations are made and through mass communications to the Passholders. That's why I'm suggesting these two groups initially. AP holders are typically engaged and people who are staying on site are a captive audience that would have plenty of opportunities to be informed that they may not be let in if certain criteria are or are not met.
UNCgolf
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That's not really the case. You're thinking of the Americans with Disabilities Act, which doesn't allow employers to discriminate against otherwise qualified individuals specifically because of a medical condition.
It's been a long time since I did anything with the ADA (aka since I was in law school), but I don't believe that that carries over to customers. Beyond that, I'm not aware of any time a contagious illness was considered a medical condition for purposes of a disability classification.
Private businesses are generally allowed to refuse service to anyone as long as the reason for refusal isn't one that falls into a protected class. I'm struggling to think of a way a contagious illness alone would fall into a protected class. For example, if a black person was refused entry because they had a fever and a white person was not, then there would be a racially based discrimination claim (and race is a protected class). If everyone with a fever was refused entry, though, that's likely permissible.
A guest made a stink on camera but one of the Disney cruise ships denied entry to a female guest that tried to board to start her family cruise that was pregnancy related but I think rules regarding pregnancy are stated in the ticket.
durangojim
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Unfortunately with the volume of guests at WDW and the current inability to have quick reliable testing for COVID, even an exam by a doctor would not be sufficient.
peter11435
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No. But temperature checks followed by a 15 minute test for those who fail is not out of the realm of possibility eventually.
eliza61nyc
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OMG, I just Laugh-snorted my drink. Blame auto correct on that one, I am not that witty
TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives
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- In the Parks
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It's not out of the realm of possibility, but what is Disney doing with that data? Are they collecting it and recording it? There's areas here where Disney has to be careful because once they start collecting that data, they have to protect that data and I don't think Disney wants to get into the area of keeping and maintaining medical records.
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