Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[flutas]

I think South Korea death rates are lower then any where because they tested more. Just like the flu if a person doesn't get tested or treated they don't count in stats. South Korea had drive thru testing stations.plus a good health system

Plus most of their cases were tied directly to a cult, not the general populace and thus was more easily traceable.

Coronavirus: South Korea sect leader to face probe over deaths

Lee Man-hee, 88, is accused of hampering efforts to contain the virus.

www.bbc.com

 

[Lilofan]

Look like share market going to take big hit this week. Down Jones future showing 4.5% drop on open. Aus share markeylt is down 6% a few hours into trade. I think this is the week it drops big time. That could effect booking as much as the virus

This is to show people how the drop over last few weeks is compared to gfc. Long way to go if panic sets in

One of the areas investors relook when their net worth drops like a rock is thinking whether or not to take that next vacation..

 

[the.dreamfinder]

South Korea’s cases continue to drop the lowest for 2 weeks...also rumours that Shanghai Disneyland is going to partially reopen

Not a rumor. Disneytown, Shanghai Disneyland Hotel and Wishing Star Park are reopening today with reduced hours.

Shanghai Disney Resort, Closed in January due to Coronavirus, Set to Partially Reopen Monday

Though the main theme park remains shut, Shanghai Disney Resort said it will reopen some shopping, dining and entertainment options Monday.

variety.com

 

[horaceluke]

According to the BBC shanghai Disneyland has partially reopened today but a staff member at Disneyland Paris has tested positive to coronavirus does this suggest we have a park closure swap on our hands?

 

[Turtlekrawl]

According to the NEJM (look at table three) for fatality rates.

Its not just the elderly.

41.3% of Severe illnesses occur in the 15-49 demographic (keep in mind the other ranges are 15 years, and this one is nearly double that.

Also, 80% of people infected are NON SMOKERS. I just found that interesting, because I originally heard it was going after smokers.

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Interesting observations. Just for some perspective though, the 15-49 age group in thIs study has by far the most people. This points to a 12% severity rate in the 15-49 group and a 28% severity rate in the >65 group. Can spin that as good or bad news depending on your perspective.

Unfortunately, I think very possible there will be massive mandatory quarantines coming nationwide, and WDW will likely be closed for a time. If China’s numbers are to be trusted (BIG IF), their extreme containment measures, while too late, are now working, and the rest of the world will have to follow suit.

 

[Timmay]

Ok data analysts... Check out this model written by a fellow data analyst and tell me if this is alarming, or why it's not:

When does Hospital Capacity Get Overwhelmed in USA? Germany?

A model of beds needed and available for Coronavirus patients

medium.com

In my interpretation it illustrates exactly why China and Italy have both taken the measure they have, and it illustrates that we will eventually be forced to follow with significant travel and gathering restrictions.

Not a data analyst, but an emergency management specialist. This doesn’t once consider surge plans and what hospitals are currently doing to address the possibility. I know of several hospitals that already have their incident command centers up and running.

 

[Lilofan]

The news reports I've seen say they are closing until Monday to sanitize. That is not what is implied by "in process of shutting down schools."

Update- The Westchester County NY schools which county has more than 80 confirmed cases now will not re-open until March 18.

 

[Tom P.]

Not to bring up the “boogeyman” of the economy again. But the price of oil collapsed over the weekend..:.asian markets already sold off today...and the automatic cutoff mechanisms in futures on the American markets kicked in.

All these things might be considered “bad” for any company operating in travel or peddling sweatshop merchandise - just saying.

Just to be clear, though, oil prices are not collapsing because of COVID-19. At least not for the most part. They are crashing because of the breakdown of the agreement between Saudi Arabia and Russia and the resultant trade war that has ensued. Saudi Arabia is deliberately taking prices extremely low in order to pull customers away from Russia.

I'm not saying that changes your point about the potential impact on the American economy. But I just don't want to add further fuel to the fire of panic over COVID-19 for something that is not really related.

 

[networkpro]

Update- The Westchester County NY schools which county has more than 80 confirmed cases now will not re-open until March 18.

Its a good thing that its not a tourist destination, in fact it hasnt much to do with Disney.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Just to be clear, though, oil prices are not collapsing because of COVID-19. At least not for the most part. They are crashing because of the breakdown of the agreement between Saudi Arabia and Russia and the resultant trade war that has ensued. Saudi Arabia is deliberately taking prices extremely low in order to pull customers away from Russia.

I'm not saying that changes your point about the potential impact on the American economy. But I just don't want to add further fuel to the fire of panic over COVID-19 for something that is not really related.

Actually...they are saying that the Chinese crisis started the free fall...

Then the Russians refused to drop production to go after North American frackers (PLEASE do!)...then the saudis went after the Russians for not lowering production.

Largest drop in price ever and the last time it was close was during desert storm

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Its a good thing that its not a tourist destination, in fact it hasnt much to do with Disney.

Usually you have a good insight on topics...but you have your head in the wrong place on this.

Do you realize how suburban and money-laden west Chester county is?

Just spooking that area will affect travel. It’s not Just about cases in Orlando...travelers arrive there at point “B”...they have to leave point “A”

 

[ZachPL]

Actually...they are saying that the Chinese crisis started the free fall...

Then the Russians refused to drop production to go after North American frackers (PLEASE do!)...then the saudis went after the Russians for not lowering production.

Largest drop in price ever and the last time it was close was during desert storm

Oil drop has everything to do with oil getting hammered by decreasing demand because of the virus. Then OPEC and russia fighting over it.

 

[John park hopper]

"Then the Russians refused to drop production to go after North American frackers" (Please Don't)

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

"Then the Russians refused to drop production to go after North American frackers" (Please Don't)

Don’t want to derail...but unfortunately I can’t state this any less bluntly: this is not good on any level.

 

[seascape]

The oil price drop is caused by Covid19 and it's side effects. Because of Covid19 and the reaction of people not going to work, energy demand plummeted. The pollution levels is China prove that. Therefore. the price if energy dropped because supply exceeded demand. The only solution to that problem is to cut supply or artificially keep the price high. I think the US should take this opportunity to impose a variable tariff on foreign oil to bring the price of oil to $42 a barrel for American Oil. We need to protect our supply and producers. If anyone doubts this, look at our manufacturing supply chain and the price we are now paying for being so dependent on them.

 

[larryz]

Interesting observations. Just for some perspective though, the 15-49 age group in thIs study has by far the most people. This points to a 12% severity rate in the 15-49 group and a 28% severity rate in the >65 group. Can spin that as good or bad news depending on your perspective.

Unfortunately, I think very possible there will be massive mandatory quarantines coming nationwide, and WDW will likely be closed for a time. If China’s numbers are to be trusted (BIG IF), their extreme containment measures, while too late, are now working, and the rest of the world will have to follow suit.

That's pretty much what you'd expect to see -- older people have more trouble fighting off infections.

I've said it before -- the only way to kill this thing off is to have EVERYBODY self-quarantine for three weeks. But that'll never happen in "the land of the free and the home of the brave."

I think the US should take this opportunity to impose a variable tariff on foreign oil to bring the price of oil to $42 a barrel for American Oil. We need to protect our supply and producers. If anyone doubts this, look at our manufacturing supply chain and the price we are now paying for being so dependent on them.

How much foreign oil is the US importing?

 

[larryz]

"Then the Russians refused to drop production to go after North American frackers" (Please Don't)

It's not all about those fracking North Americans!

 

[networkpro]

Usually you have a good insight on topics...but you have your head in the wrong place on this.

Do you realize how suburban and money-laden west Chester county is?

Just spooking that area will affect travel. It’s not Just about cases in Orlando...travelers arrive there at point “B”...they have to leave point “A”

Its a three-hour flight away from MCO. Break out your compass and draw a circle of the area it covers since its a thousand miles away and you'll encompass Houston, DFW, Chicago, etc. That's a pretty broad brush.

 

[Patcheslee]

Update- The Westchester County NY schools which county has more than 80 confirmed cases now will not re-open until March 18.

1 case in Indiana of an elementary student testing positive. They've closed school for 2 weeks and students won't be back until April 6th due to spring break. No word if the students are supposed to self-quarantine though. Unfortunately I could see some ppl chosing to still keep travel plans.

 

[Communicora]

1 case in Indiana of an elementary student testing positive. They've closed school for 2 weeks and students won't be back until April 6th due to spring break. No word if the students are supposed to self-quarantine though. Unfortunately I could see some ppl chosing to still keep travel plans.

They are going to need to figure out a way to make people stick with their self-quarantines. Social distancing is working in Hong Kong. I worry that Americans won't listen to lessons from other countries and it will be worse here. Our hospital systems are going to have an impossible time keeping up.