Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[hopemax]

Exactly. Even when the parks were crowded I’ve never been within 6 feet of people on hiking trails in a state or national park. I can’t imagine walking a hiking trail has a major risk.

Yes we want to be careful, but we shouldn’t be expected to remain in solitary confinement for a month... that’s not healthy at all.

You have obviously never hiked the Diamond Head trail in the last decade. I have never seen so many people on a trail before. This is not my photo, just one I found on Google. Now, most of us aren't on Oahu, but even here at Rocky Mountain, the most popular trails 1-3 mile stuff, we were constantly passing people who were coming back down. We visited Zion last, about 15 years ago, and some of those trails were pretty full as well. The paved portion of the Narrows, last half mile of Angels Landing. Things like that. So as all things YMMV.

 

[21stamps]

One doesn’t need to be in a park to go for a walk. Again, it’s not ideal, but if the aim is exercise and fresh air, a stroll around the block is better than nothing.

Where is it happening?

 

[21stamps]

You have to check with the servicer of your loan. The bill doesn’t specify how the extra payments will be made. I’ve seen a few of the larger mortgage servicers (Wells Fargo, Chase, BoA) say they will work with customers to determine how the funds would be repaid including options to allow borrowers to extend their mortgage by adding the missed months to the end or opt to make additional payments over a period of months to make up for it. I haven’t seen any banks that said they plan to make the payment due immediately after the 180 days are up, but it’s possible some will. The 3 listed above service more than a third of the mortgages out there.

Did the bill put mandates on all banks? Or just the federal loans?

 

[RoyalPrinceLeon]

Hey, I'm going to work soon. I'll keep checking the news and here.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Where is it happening?

You specifically mentioned cities and areas in which people don't have a private yard. I'm pretty sure @LittleBuford is referencing that and stating that a walk around the block is better than nothing.

 

[21stamps]

You specifically mentioned cities and areas in which people don't have a private yard. I'm pretty sure @LittleBuford is referencing that and stating that a walk around the block is better than nothing.

Ok so all of your earlier posts were hypothetical, not what’s really happening anywhere in the US? This is what I’m trying to figure out. You specifically said that leaders had to set these restrictions due to the rules breakers, had it happened or no?

 

[GoofGoof]

Then talk to the people who are breaking the rules. Seriously. More and more things are needing to be shuttered because as things close, people are finding other areas to congregate in and are doing so. Don't blame the rule-makers...they're only doing what they have to.

Cuomo mentioned this yesterday on TV. NY left the parks open and asked people to just social distance. They kept having people show up to play basketball. Unless you are like me in my one year playing organized basketball and you just stand around but nobody passes you the ball, it’s not social distancing at all. They asked them to stop, but more showed up. The cops are short staffed with so many out sick. They don’t have time to police parks to make sure people are 6 feet apart. They closed the parks.

 

[LittleBuford]

You specifically mentioned cities and areas in which people don't have a private yard. I'm pretty sure @LittleBuford is referencing that and stating that a walk around the block is better than nothing.

Thank you. I don’t understand how what I wrote was unclear.

 

[DCBaker]

Thank you. I don’t understand how what I wrote was unclear.

It wasn't.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Ok so all of your earlier posts were hypothetical, not what’s really happening anywhere in the US? This is what I’m trying to figure out. You specifically said that leaders had to set these restrictions due to the rules breakers, had it happened or no?

No...we're seeing more and more areas of the public shut down because people aren't following social distancing rules. The message has shifted from encouraging people to go out to public areas to one of "stay home - you're safer there"...specifically because people aren't following the rules.

 

[RoyalPrinceLeon]

Today is Florida 1st stay at home day statewide. Keep Florida Healthy!

 

[21stamps]

Cuomo mentioned this yesterday on TV. NY left the parks open and asked people to just social distance. They kept having people show up to play basketball. Unless you are like me in my one year playing organized basketball and you just stand around but nobody passes you the ball, it’s not social distancing at all. They asked them to stop, but more showed up. The cops are short staffed with so many out sick. They don’t have time to police parks to make sure people are 6 feet apart. They closed the parks.

All parks in New York State?

I know that many areas were taking down basketball hoops, which is understandable, playgrounds are also closed, and have been for quite some time.
I’m just really hoping that states are not mandating for every park to be closed.

 

[RoyalPrinceLeon]

Does anyone know when the peak will be in south fl?

 

[GoofGoof]

Did the bill put mandates on all banks? Or just the federal loans?

Any federally owned loan (which is > 90% since the credit crisis in 2008) is mandated to be covered. If you have a non-conforming or jumbo loan (over $500K in principle) it’s not required but every bank has individual processes for hardship forbearance during normal times. The banks are not required to give you extra time, but most will and they will work with you on a plan to restructure the loan. It costs a bank much more to foreclose or sell your house in a short sale. They would much rather have you continue to make payments.

 

[orlandogal22]

Does anyone know when the peak will be in south fl?

I think they said within the next two weeks...but I've read as far out as May!

 

[RoyalPrinceLeon]

I think they said within the next two weeks...but I've read as far out as May!

It's been a week since broward curfews started and 2 weeks at home. I hope this is doing something.

 

[MisterPenguin]

In New York and New Jersey my landscapers are still mowing the grass and pruning the bushes. I guess the states decide they are essential. Anyway if they weren't my grass would grow too high.

NJ specifically listed landscaping as essential.

I would think after two month of overgrown lawns, we'd wind up with a Lyme's Disease epidemic.

 

[MisterPenguin]

hmmm...they don't have exercise listed as an essential activity here...or paddle-boarding doesn't count as exercise...

Edit: probably b/c beaches are closed.

Officials: Paddleboarder arrested at Malibu Pier for flouting state stay at home order

A paddleboarder was arrested in Malibu Thursday after ignoring lifeguards’ orders to get out of the ocean amid social distancing rules, authorities said. The lifeguards flagged down deputies …

ktla.com

AND... he refused the direction of a lifeguard. If he took the warning and just left, he wouldn't have been fined.

 

[LittleBuford]

Relevant to the current discussion:

Coronavirus: US tourist towns telling visitors to stay away

Its state slogan is "live free or die" - but locals now fear being overwhelmed by tourists.

www.bbc.co.uk

Stay in your own locales, people. Relocating to beauty spots shouldn’t be a priority (or even allowed) under the current circumstances.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Does anyone know when the peak will be in south fl?

I think they said within the next two weeks...but I've read as far out as May!

May 3rd for Florida as a whole according to the data the White House is using. (You can pull down the menu to view data for any state)

IHME | COVID-19 Projections

Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.

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