News Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

Ravenclaw78

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Has anyone gone back and started reading this thread from the original post? It's kinda stunning to read the conviction with which some folks posted that this was not going to be a big deal. Sure, hindsight is 20/20, but just a thought... when discussing matters of health or life/death, we should probably avoid giving advice or making an argument on a topic we know nothing about. Just sayin' because people are literally dying due to either themselves, or others being too casual with the dangers of this situation.

Btw, I'm not attacking anyone. I understand that we've never seen anything like this, but some of the early posts surprised me since this is the first time I've clicked on this thread.
One particular major US news source's "talking heads" spent the first two months of the outbreak insisting that it was a hoax or blown way out of proportion. Many viewers of that network believed them, or at least failed to recognize the severity of the situation due to the incorrect information being provided to them and their bias against other news services that were reporting more accurately. They're taking it more seriously now, though even still they're going with a narrative that the economic damage from stay-at-home orders vastly outweighs the impact of the hundreds of thousands or even millions of deaths we'd have without social distancing remaining in place.
 

Walt d

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It's probably a heavy dose of anxiety on my part, you're right.
Wish i could stay at home there. And stay in the castle sweet., please make me!
 

Lilofan

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MisterPenguin

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Medical grade infrared thermometers are accurate enough according to the FDA and NIH, providing they're used correctly. They take into account the ambient temperature of the room, so, you can't use them where there is wind or breezes. The skin needs to be dry (wet skin is obviously cooler thanks to evaporation). And they need to be at the correct distance from the target (some models have converging light beams to achieve the proper distance).
 

Jlasoon

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Sirwalterraleigh

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For fear of going down a rabbit hole with some, it's not that cut and dry to say "it's just work" or that people with good intentions are simply "selfish."

Some people are dealt a hard hand in life financially (including myself at the moment) and going to work (possibly with symptoms they don't yet associate with any one particular virus-that-shall-not-be-named) when staying home can mean whether or not a bill gets paid, a rent gets paid, health insurance gets paid, or food goes on the table.

I'm not speaking to this particular OP's mom's boss, but to the many out there who do not get PTO, do not have vacation days to use, do not get paid for calling out, etc.

It's a rough world out there.

(and before anyone comments re: any perceived desire to infect co-workers when ill, I work from home and have done so for the last 12 years ;) BUT I've gotten plenty of colds and other lovely things from co-workers in the past)
I’m not disputing that instinct at all...which is why I am blaming a “system” that punishes people valuing their paycheck/job status over their health and those around them - which is healthy production of the employer as well.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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And what do you think those risk management companies are telling them?
...it ain’t good.

And an operation with the liabilities of a Disney...for instance...farms out some of that “self insured” concept with the heavy hitters of the insurance industry as a backstop also. AIG, Chubb, Zurich, etc.
 

Pepper's Ghost

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One particular major US news source's "talking heads" spent the first two months of the outbreak insisting that it was a hoax or blown way out of proportion. Many viewers of that network believed them, or at least failed to recognize the severity of the situation due to the incorrect information being provided to them and their bias against other news services that were reporting more accurately. They're taking it more seriously now, though even still they're going with a narrative that the economic damage from stay-at-home orders vastly outweighs the impact of the hundreds of thousands or even millions of deaths we'd have without social distancing remaining in place.
All fair comments which I completely agree with. With that said let's toe the proper side of the line regarding political discussion. ;) I'm not saying you didn't, but moderators might interpret differently. It's like using the phrase "$hit" instead of the actual word. We all know what you mean. lol 🤣
 

Jlasoon

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Political Discussion is not allowed outside of the correct forum
Well, 10M out of work in the last 2 weeks - Car sales fell off a cliff in March - Boeing looking at 'voluntary buyouts' for 160,000 employees, 60% of all planes around the world are grounded, cruise ships grounded, stay at home orders everywhere, local businesses decimated.

I hope it was worth it Dr. Fauci - Remember, those same people who are now unemployed or find themselves with reduced work hours & reduced pay are the same people we need for a bounce back. Ugly!
 

DCBaker

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"Stop & Shop today announced that, starting immediately, it will be donating 5,000 free fresh meals every day for healthcare first responders in some of the areas hardest hit by the COVID-19 pandemic. Stop & Shop is covering all costs and food donations, which include sandwiches, salads, and pre-packaged entrees. The donations also include energy and nutrition bars for when healthcare workers don’t have time for a meal as they work around the clock to care for COVID-19 patients."

The meals will be provided every day to: Mount Sinai Hospital in East Harlem and Mount Sinai South Nassau hospital in Oceanside, NY, Long Island Community Hospital in Suffolk County, NY, Pascack Valley Medical Center in Westwood, NJ, Boston Medical Center and Boston Children’s Hospital.

 

Sirwalterraleigh

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As a citizen of the U.K. I have to say that all the Americans I have met personally have been delightful and charming, and are one of the main attractions in returning to Florida and WDW as frequently as money will allow. However the claim that the USA has helped out more than any other country on the the planet is, in my opinion, somewhat exaggerated and patronising. The U.K. have stood with you when others chose not to and there are occasions that the special relationship has not been reciprocated, on both sides. Yes the USA is a great country but so are many others............ I am not denying that the USA have helped but so have many other countries ....even when the USA did not. I realise that this may be too provocative and political for this forum. However it is intended to remind us that this is a WORLD pandemic and if we are to see the earliest possible return to a near normality and the longed for opening of WDW we need to work together and not points score across the continents. Stay home, stay safe and be kind to each other!
Well put.

I think the two most obvious flaws in the US currently are:
1. The lack of a desire for widespread education - notably history - prevents us from evaluating/accepting our place in the world including our strengths and limitations.
2. American “exceptionalism” has been weaponized. My entire life I have watch dismissal of societies that taught us much of what the principles we value as “our own”...and we dismiss those countries we are inevitably tied too. The most aggravating is France...which the US is forever tied to...but also the UK. We aren’t who we are without a respect for each other.

Ok...back to park ops 😉
 

orlandogal22

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I’m not disputing that instinct at all...which is why I am blaming a “system” that punishes people valuing their paycheck/job status over their health and those around them - which is healthy production of the employer as well.
True, but we're a long way from that perfect workplace environment - across every industry and in every part of the world.

In the meantime, I would shy away from branding innocent people stuck in that "system" as being "selfish." ;)
 

Lilofan

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Well, 10M out of work in the last 2 weeks - Car sales fell off a cliff in March - Boeing looking at 'voluntary buyouts' for 160,000 employees, 60% of all planes around the world are grounded, cruise ships grounded, stay at home orders everywhere, local businesses decimated.

I hope it was worth it Dr. Fauci - Remember, those same people who are now unemployed or find themselves with reduced work hours & reduced pay are the same people we need for a bounce back. Ugly!
If more thought like you, we'd all be in worse shape beyond belief death count wise.
 

Piebald

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I don’t know how you paid for your wedding. If you used a credit card you can dispute the charges for services not rendered. I always use a credit card for more expensive and important purchases. Hope this helps.
Unfortunately not a CC.
That oppressive Florida heat in August would make my blood boil over 100 degrees.
August?

Other than the "cool front" at the moment its been mid to high 90s lately and next week it looks like it goes back to being offensively and unseasonably hot
 

orlandogal22

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FYI - If anyone has Cigna health insurance -

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Ravenclaw78

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All fair comments which I completely agree with. With that said let's toe the proper side of the line regarding political discussion. ;) I'm not saying you didn't, but moderators might interpret differently. It's like using the phrase "$hit" instead of the actual word. We all know what you mean. lol 🤣
I was as careful as I could be to avoid discussing potential ideological reasons that station chose the positions they took, and their actual newsroom has handled the crisis better than the opinion side of the house. Facts don't have an inherent political bias, and I think criticizing news sources on either side of the spectrum for failing to accurately report the facts about the pandemic should not be seen as a political commentary.
 

John park hopper

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Unfortunately not a CC.

August?

Other than the "cool front" at the moment its been mid to high 90s lately and next week it looks like it goes back to being offensively and unseasonably hot
We keep hearing hopes the virus will abate when temps increase in summer. The fact that cover-19 is still on the rise in FL with 90 degree temps seems to negate the summer decrease hypothesis. I hope to god I am looking at this wrong .
 
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