News Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

HappyDisFam

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I don't know any of you personally, but I love this forum.

I live in the NY/NJ/CT metro area. One of my best friends was just killed by the Chinese/Wuhan/COVID-19/Coronavirus. He was only 36 years old. He didn't know how he got it. He was tested and told to self-quarantine, which he did. 9 days later, this past Saturday he had bad breathing problems and decided to to the Emergency Room. It was too late.

He died yesterday. Alone. I loved my good friend/little brother dearly.

We can't even mourn him properly, as only limited numbers of people can gather...even for funerals.

PLEASE FIGHT THIS IN YOUR OWN LIVES LIKE A WAR! PLEASE FIGHT FOR YOURSELF & YOUR LOVED ONES! STAY HOME! DISINFECT OFTEN!

Sending love & prayers to you all.
I am so sorry for your loss and know your pain. Our friend‘s wife and children were not allowed to see him once he entered the emergency room due to possible exposure. They couldn’t even say goodbye. He was 40.
Our neighbor’s grandchild, a teenager, was with nurses when he passed while his parents/grandparents begged to see him. They were willing to take the risk but obviously the hospital couldn’t allow it.
 

Touchdown

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i doubt international travel into the US is going to be allowed for a long time due to multiple reasons:

1. COVID is blowing up in the Southern Hemisphere which is about to experience winter, suggesting there will be a seasonal cycle to this. The best way to prevent it bouncing back to the US will be a travel ban.

2. This is ravaging the world, most estimates suggest a US peak in late April/Early May and the outbreak being contained by June. Americans are going to want to avoid this happening again.

3. Our current President is predisposed to close borders for any reason and will likely keep these restrictions in place until long after experts tell him it’s no longer needed (I’m not trying to be political and not going to commentate on this but like it or not this is a fact.)

Unless we find an effective treatment, develop a vaccine or have a change in leadership the US will be continue to be closed to international visitors. Seeing as all but one of those things has no realistic chance of happening this calendar year (treatment, the election while it happens this year does not take effect until January of 2021) I think that any international guests should assume they will not be going to WDW this year.
 
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21stamps

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ETA: Apparently my comments may have been misconstrued as political in nature. For anyone who thought that, I sincerely apologize. My frustration with the Florida Governor comes from experience in municipal government (in a party-neutral environment) and was not intended to portray or reflect upon political views. I see this as an emergency health crisis, not as a political crisis. Again, I apologize if my comments have been misconstrued as political as that was definitely not my intent.

Agree on the politics portion... I wasn’t trying to sound political either. I think it’s interesting how different governors and mayors are choosing to handle it.. and I think it will be interesting to learn from when it’s all said and done. Even looking at outside the USA as well. That’s all my post was about, apologies if it sounded like something else.

Ohio has been the most proactive out of any state in the USA, and really more proactive than any other country has been, to my knowledge.
Was it enough? When will the restrictions end?
These questions remain unanswered at this time.
 

flynnibus

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British Airways will suspend all flights to and from London's Gatwick airport amid a collapse in demand due to the coronavirus.

Gatwick is the main UK airport that serves flights to Orlando for British Airways.
but.. but... people need to think about their vacations...

;)
 

DCBaker

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DeSantis briefing - limiting movements for all Floridians. Only essential travel allowed.

The order, which will start Thursday at midnight, will be in effect for at least the next 30 days, DeSantis said.

 
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MickeyLuv'r

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I'd much rather sick people just stayed at home. Doesn't matter if its flu, covid, common cold. If you are coughing and sneezing a lot just stay at home.

Many people are reluctant to cancel any pre-paid portion of their trip.
And it isn't just the $, it is also the emotional investment they have made.

Very ill people might even be MORE emotionally invested in getting to see WDW one last time.
 

Ravenclaw78

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Although I agree, I can understand why no administration prepared for this no matter who was President or which party held the house, senate or both.

Nothing like this has happened since 1918/1919 with the Spanish flu. I can understand why, starting a few decades later, nobody would think it would be necessary.

Even experts that thought a pandemic was possible never envisioned a disease that could be very serious and deadly for a small, but significant percentage of patients but also have extremely mild symptoms (or no symptoms) in a large percentage and, at the same time, be highly contagious. It is a truly unprecedented situation.
(Hoping this doesn't count as politics...) yes, it does count as politics. Moderator

You are incorrect. The National Security Council under the Obama administration anticipated a widespread worldwide pandemic and developed a playbook for responding to it. During the transition period between administrations, they provided this playbook to the incoming Trump administration and warned them to expect it to be needed. The current NSC failed to follow the playbook.

 
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Josh Hendy

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"The U.S. Coast Guard has directed all cruise ships to remain at sea where they may be sequestered "indefinitely" during the coronavirus pandemic and be prepared to send any severely ill passengers to the countries where the vessels are registered."
Sadly for some passengers, this will mean being sent to countries such as Panama, Liberia and Netherlands which is supposedly discouraging the use of ICUs for the elderly.

If the cruise lines want to save their reputations and if they're as broke as they claim they should sell or mortgage a few ships and use the money to evacuate passengers to their home countries.

I speculate that the gambling profits alone from the cruise ships still at sea would probably pay for evacuation and first class care for all of their passengers.
 

21stamps

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Sadly for some passengers, this will mean being sent to countries such as Panama, Liberia and Netherlands which is supposedly discouraging the use of ICUs for the elderly.

If the cruise lines want to save their reputations and if they're as broke as they claim they should sell or mortgage a few ships and use the money to evacuate passengers to their home countries.

I speculate that the gambling profits alone from the cruise ships still at sea would probably pay for evacuation and first class care for all of their passengers.

Sell their ships to whom? Other cruise line companies who are also losing money by the day?

Regarding gambling, I doubt that any casinos are open on the ships right now. Don’t know for sure, but it sounds highly unlikely.
 
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MickeyLuv'r

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RE: the new Free Dining offer from WDW (post from a few pages back)

I suspect that Disney has never thought they would be opening in this time period and that the announcement of the offer was simply a way of trying to gauge how strong their market of "committed" customers is likely to be when they are able to open up. This will give them data on how many resorts they may need to open up and how many they can afford to mothball. If the numbers are low -- even with a free dining offer -- they can adjust prospective staffing levels and their financial projections accordingly.
WDW gets a little cash flow from the deposits.
 

Polynesia

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DeSantis briefing - limiting movements for all Floridians. Only essential travel allowed.

The order, which will start Thursday at midnight, will be in effect for at least the next 30 days, DeSantis said.

For how long? Thanks
 

Notes from Neverland

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Uefa have officially cancelled Champions and Europa leagues too. If you follow that kind of stuff. I’m still waiting for the Six Nations to finish.
Love the Champions League! It's such a fun tournament that doesn't really compare to anything in the United States. Hala Madrid!

Of course, it was also sad to see scientists suggesting the one Champions League game may be responsible for some of the outbreaks in Spain and Italy.
 

flynnibus

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21stamps

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Love the Champions League! It's such a fun tournament that doesn't really compare to anything in the United States. Hala Madrid!
I just realized that my FuboTV subscription was automatically renewed today. I have cable, only pay the outrageous FuboTV fee so we can watch all LaLiga matches and international tournaments (unfortunately US networks only show Premier League games, not even El Clasico).. I have ESPN+ separately for Serie A. I need to call and cancel both. There’s no reason to pay that at this time.
I wonder how many people are doing the same.
 
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