Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Logan L]

I am betting on a June 1st opening date for WDW and Disneyland

 

[Polynesia]

Offucially, social distancing guidelines extend until April 30.

That’s fine by me. He mentioned the peak coming in two weeks and a June 1 date as a possible date to find some normalcy. Maybe Disney got that date before Trump broadcasted it. I suspect I’ll be on lockdown then for another three weeks after these two weeks are up. And I’m ok with that, too.

 

[MadMax11]

The common cold isn't caused by "a" virus. It's caused by a laundry list of variations of viruses that cause those ailments. It's not like polio where there are only 3 strains.

Totally fair, and using the cold was a bad choice apparently because it led the discussion down a different path...my point was only to say that those are viruses..we don't cure those, we alleviate those...and we provide immunizations (that we hope people will subject themselves to) in order to help prevent the spread.

 

[Jlasoon]

People understand we don't have cures for viruses, right? We might have treatments that reduce symptoms...and we can develop vaccines to help reduce the number of people that get them (provided people will get the vaccines, because they're voluntary and administered when you're healthy - we're likely months away from the development of a vaccine)....but there's no cure out there. As there's no cure for the common cold, which is a virus. We're not waiting on a cure..we're waiting primarily on a vaccine. An antiviral medication is great, and can help a lot in limiting the severity...but it's not a panacea to a viral outbreak.

Exactly! These parks, cruises, the country, ain’t opening up again until we have a vaccine or .gov sends out millions of N95 masks.

On top of that, the planet is looking at depression era unemployment numbers. 5% of restaurants in the state of FL went bankrupt in just the last 2 weeks. Canada saw 1M unemployment applications in a week, Germany’s finance minister jumped in front of train this morning. Tourism is all but dead for the foreseeable future.

again, economic growth ain’t a car, you don’t just press the start button.

 

[Polynesia]

I am betting on a June 1st opening date for WDW and Disneyland

I was hoping for mid May. But it does appear June 1 will be the date. This will be good for cast members to get back to work

 

[MisterPenguin]

Offucially, social distancing guidelines extend until April 30.

For what area?

 

[Jlasoon]

I am betting on a June 1st opening date for WDW and Disneyland

Do you have any idea what the unemployment numbers will look like June 1st?

We have early models - Disney is gonna have to rethink their pricing structure on this one. I’m sure they know what’s coming. They have some of the best bean counters in the world.

 

[Andrew C]

For what area?

This is the federal guidelines for everywhere. Basically extending the original “15 days to slow the spread”

doesn’t change any state or local guidelines regarding shelter in place orders.

 

[Clamman73]

For what area?

Seems for the whole country.

 

[MuteSuperstar]

For what area?

Nationally, per Trump

Trump extends distancing guidelines through April 30 to keep US death toll below 100,000

President Trump reversed himself after saying he wanted the country to reopen for business by Easter.

www.cnbc.com

 

[JoeCamel]

DeSantis (Fla Gov) needs to put truck lanes at the border checks into effect. They are being held up in the road checks.

Let that TP flow down from the GA mils...

 

[disney4life2008]

It feels like it has been ages, but this was the scene at MK only 14 days ago.

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Omg I can smell the popcorn, Casey's, cotton candy...

 

[disney4life2008]

I was already uneasy seeing those crowds on the day itself; now I find the scene totally shocking. Disney should have come up with a more responsible way of shutting down.

I went to magic Kingdom and epcot on the last days and to be fair, at that point, I don't think we as a nation understood the complexity. Back then, as far as I understand, it was an old people disease and as long as I stayed away from them, I was good. And of course maintain proper hand washing. This is why initially Disney Springs and hotels were going to remain open. Even at that point, life was still going on. It didn't get bad until the following week and it has been downhill from there.

 

[JoeCamel]

I went to magic Kingdom and epcot on the last days and to be fair, at that point, I don't think we as a nation understood the complexity. Back then, as far as I understand, it was an old people disease and as long as I stayed away from them, I was good. And of course maintain proper hand washing. This is why initially Disney Springs and hotels were going to remain open. Even at that point, life was still going on. It didn't get bad until the following week and it has been downhill from there.

That was the narrative being pushed for sure but other outlets were calling for reduced contact

 

[Josh Hendy]

People understand we don't have cures for viruses, right? We might have treatments that reduce symptoms....but there's no cure out there.

The positive claims made for this combination of malaria drugs is that they reduce the length of time patients require ventilation, the length of time during which they have a "high virus load" and are contagious, and the rate of mortality ... compared to other studies - not compared to a control group of untreated patients.

The scientists say it might not work for people who are very old and unhealthy, and they won't give the drugs to anyone who has contraindications (such as heart arrhythmia or who needs other drugs which are incompatible). So it cannot be a 100% cure for everyone. But it seems to be a cure or at least a very effective treatment for many people. This is pending further research with larger groups of patients.

 

[rk03221]

I am betting on a June 1st opening date for WDW and Disneyland

i think mid may-June is realistic. I don’t think Disney can afford to keep them closed through the summer and there already won’t be a lot of people going when it opens back up. By that time most people should’ve already gotten the virus and developed some immunity to it.

 

[MisterPenguin]

The positive claims made for this combination of malaria drugs is that they reduce the length of time patients require ventilation, the length of time during which they have a "high virus load" and are contagious, and the rate of mortality ... compared to other studies - not compared to a control group of untreated patients.

The scientists say it might not work for people who are very old and unhealthy, and they won't give the drugs to anyone who has contraindications (such as heart arrhythmia or who needs other drugs which are incompatible). So it cannot be a 100% cure for everyone. But it seems to be a cure or at least a very effective treatment for many people. This is pending further research with larger groups of patients.

I'm all for trials using this drug.

It shouldn't be called "medicine," though, until the data shows it's effective after double blind studies.

It is "experimental treatment" for now.

 

[MadMax11]

The positive claims made for this combination of malaria drugs is that they reduce the length of time patients require ventilation, the length of time during which they have a "high virus load" and are contagious, and the rate of mortality ... compared to other studies - not compared to a control group of untreated patients.

The scientists say it might not work for people who are very old and unhealthy, and they won't give the drugs to anyone who has contraindications (such as heart arrhythmia or who needs other drugs which are incompatible). So it cannot be a 100% cure for everyone. But it seems to be a cure or at least a very effective treatment for many people. This is pending further research with larger groups of patients.

Agreed..and in no way did I intend to mean that it wouldn't be great. I hope like hell that it works.

But a drug (like an antiviral) that reduces symptoms is not a cure. It does not eradicate a virus the way that antibiotics eradicate a bacterial infection. You can still be contagious with mild, tempered symptoms or even no symptoms at all. That point alone has massive implications for the likelihood of high traffic private businesses opening back up and subjecting their employees to this. Moreso than the effectiveness of a drug that reduces symptoms after you get it.

 

[hopemax]

I read something today that suggested it's already mutated frequently. I believe all the coronaviruses are more likely to mutate than not.

They call it "genetic drift." This one is mutating about twice per month. However, they are small changes, that are allowing epidemiologists to trace how this is spreading. Like in Washington, something like 80% of sequenced samples trace back to a single person, where in other areas, like NY and the UK they can see that there were multiple introductions. The mutations aren't causing the virus functions to change, so that means a vaccine should be longer lasting than the flu (years not a season).

 

[Polynesia]

i think mid may-June is realistic. I don’t think Disney can afford to keep them closed through the summer and there already won’t be a lot of people going when it opens back up. By that time most people should’ve already gotten the virus and developed some immunity to it.

Maybe they’ll do a soft opening. I imagine cast members will be called in earlier to learn new safety procedures