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UNCgolf
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Neil Ferguson (who was in charge of the original Imperial model that suggested we could have rolling quarantines for over a year) said that the virus spreads much faster than their initial models projected, meaning that there are both far more current infections than they expected and far more people have already had it and recovered. That would also mean a corresponding decrease in the mortality rate. Their new model also suggested the UK will have it's peak in total cases in the next couple of weeks.
Hopefully all of this is true, because it could mean we will be through the worst of it by the beginning of May.
UNCgolf
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I live in Atlanta and even I'm not sure what you're referring to.
Do you mean because the airport here is the busiest in the world?
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RobWDW1971
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Huh, apparently experts rethinking....
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Thursday that his stay-at-home order for the entirety of New York State was “probably not the best public health strategy.”
In a press conference in Albany, Cuomo said the smartest way forward would be a public health strategy that complemented a “get-back-to-work strategy.”
“What we did was we closed everything down. That was our public health strategy. Just close everything, all businesses, old workers, young people, old people, short people, tall people,” said Cuomo. “Every school closed, everything.”
“If you rethought that or had time to analyze that public health strategy, I don't know that you would say quarantine everyone,” Cuomo admitted. “I don't even know that that was the best public health policy. Young people then quarantined with older people was probably not the best public health strategy because the younger people could have been exposing the older people to an infection. “
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Thursday that his stay-at-home order for the entirety of New York State was “probably not the best public health strategy.”
In a press conference in Albany, Cuomo said the smartest way forward would be a public health strategy that complemented a “get-back-to-work strategy.”
“What we did was we closed everything down. That was our public health strategy. Just close everything, all businesses, old workers, young people, old people, short people, tall people,” said Cuomo. “Every school closed, everything.”
“If you rethought that or had time to analyze that public health strategy, I don't know that you would say quarantine everyone,” Cuomo admitted. “I don't even know that that was the best public health policy. Young people then quarantined with older people was probably not the best public health strategy because the younger people could have been exposing the older people to an infection. “
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21stamps
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I’m interested in doing the best for all people, those who may become in critical condition due to the virus, and those who’s livelihoods are at stake due to extended shut downs due to those who are trusting in predictions too much.
I’ll repeat what I said earlier, there is no harm in waiting to announce extensions, it is the smart thing to do. There is much harm in announcing closure extensions before we know what’s really going on.
RobWDW1971
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Remember when this started and the experts predicted over 3 million jobless claims in a week? Oh wait....
A record number of workers -- 3.28 million -- filed unemployment claims in the week ending March 21, according to U.S. Department of Labor data released Thursday. The previous record for weekly unemployment filings was 695,000 in 1982.
Thousands of businesses have been forced to close amid government-mandated stay-in-place orders.
The staggering figure comes as the unemployment rate was near a 50-year low just weeks ago.
Thursday's total is three times the combined number of people employed by Apple, Target, General Motors, Boeing and McDonalds.
(For other posters' sensitivity, please note this is from ABC News (as if it matters) - feel free to add wacky emoticons or other value added comments)
A record number of workers -- 3.28 million -- filed unemployment claims in the week ending March 21, according to U.S. Department of Labor data released Thursday. The previous record for weekly unemployment filings was 695,000 in 1982.
Thousands of businesses have been forced to close amid government-mandated stay-in-place orders.
The staggering figure comes as the unemployment rate was near a 50-year low just weeks ago.
Thursday's total is three times the combined number of people employed by Apple, Target, General Motors, Boeing and McDonalds.
(For other posters' sensitivity, please note this is from ABC News (as if it matters) - feel free to add wacky emoticons or other value added comments)
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trainplane3
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We're usually the airport where airlines send their planes to avoid hurricanes and other storms that hammer the east coast for a few main reasons. Because every other airport is operating over capacity (Hi Philly and your 125% operations), we're close enough to everything, and we're shockingly huge.
I got to watch a scenario happen a few years ago (when I worked there) just like this. It's something else to watch empty tarmac be taken up by planes, watching the air-stairs go to a plane, two pilots get off, rinse repeat for the next 20+ planes.
I got to watch a scenario happen a few years ago (when I worked there) just like this. It's something else to watch empty tarmac be taken up by planes, watching the air-stairs go to a plane, two pilots get off, rinse repeat for the next 20+ planes.
21stamps
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Should I ask for a link or just go straight to FoxNews?
Would the direct quote change depending on the source?
21stamps
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They probably don’t know what they’re doing yet. I understand it’s frustrating, but there are so many businesses and schools and governments who are in this same situation.
I knew one day before we had to lay people off. Not even 24 hours prior to the task, the people were informed the next day, informed it would be their last or furloughed until a specific date.
I’m sure Disney will have more than a 24 notice on what to do, but it might be another day or 2.
If you just want news, stick to the front page of www.wdwmagic.com. Anything of importance will be posted there. The forum is fore discussion as well as news.
hopemax
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Re: Andrew Cuomo... I bet 99% of mayors, county commissioners, governors are constantly second guessing their actions on a regular basis these days. That's what those quotes read to me, someone who is acknowledging his own fallibility. That doesn't necessarily mean that they would have chosen differently, or that their actions were wrong. We're all operating without a roadmap, acknowledgement of such means he's human.
This doesn’t even count the workers that haven’t been able to file officially yet... freelancers, gig workers, part time / casual employees with 0 hour schedules instead of being formally laid off... luckily the bill passed through congress extends benefits in those directions so we’ll see the numbers pop up with that now too.
Also, the state of Florida website for filing has been constantly crashing on people and kicking out applications before completing them.
21stamps
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He’s saying that they need to figure out the best way forward..These governors realize that we can’t stay in shut down mode. It’s too costly to all.
Cuomo stressed the need for both public health and economic growth. “We have to do both,” said the governor. “We’re working on it.”
If you just want news, stick to the front page of www.wdwmagic.com. Anything of importance will be posted there. The forum is fore discussion as well as news.
I have appreciated the spirited back and forth, honestly... there’s a lot of important perspectives here, despite the occasional flame war to wade though. I have also legitimately been using this forum as a general news summary... since the major developments are inevitably covered in depth.
In some ways, diverse but educated and manageable in population size / bandwidth forums like this one are incredibly effective at cutting though to the real issues. Thank you Steve for allowing this to continue, even as off-official-topic as it has gone.
DarkMetroid567
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This is not an admission of regret. He's saying that he's fully aware that he's not 100% behind the decision, and he still doesn't know that it will produce the results that he hopes.
EDIT: hopemax, above, said it better than I did!
RobWDW1971
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Yup, and 23 currently dead in Florida from coronavirus.
In a state that has over 200,000 deaths a year and a population of 21 million people.
TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives
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I just wish they would share their logic and what action X leads to. Putting out one order doesn't last forever. There's a series of steps that can occur depending on what happens. It could very well be:
- Closing schools, shutting down dine-ins, movie theaters, etc.
IF we see a 20-30% rise in cases over a seven day period, we will then shut down non-essential businesses.
IF we see a 5-10% rise in cases over a seven day period, we will continue as is
IF we see a 0-5% rise in cases over a seven day period OR a decline in cases, we will remove restrictions
They're not operating on logic at this point, They're very reactionary and looking at the play as if it's 3rd down and 5 instead of what's the play AFTER 3rd down and 5.
Drives me crazy.
Hcalvert
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I saw on a news program that the people that have tested postive for COVID-19 and have mild symptoms, mostly report that they have a sinus headache as one of their only symptoms. I been having one every day for a week and so has my husband...allergies or coronavirus? 
DarkMetroid567
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Your logical reasoning is poor. He said "If you rethought that or had time to analyze that public health strategy, I don't know that you would say quarantine everyone." He is only implying that other options might exist that could have the potential for better results, but that doesn't take into the account the cost or assurance that a potential change would even be worth pursuing.
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