Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[MaryJaneP]

mild symptoms? vaccinated?

 

[Dizneykid]

Comparing places like NYC and Chicago to Florida in regards to precautions is rather useless. All three places approached covid differently than the other (for better or worse), so what one state or city does is not going to impact another. Would I be annoyed if stricter precautions came back to WDW and to other places? Yes. Am I still going to go to said places? Also yes. It is what it is at this point.

The north is having a surge right now. My area has a VERY high vaccination rate and numbers rising more each day. Sometimes I wonder if we merely postponed the inevitable by having stricter rules up here for longer. I feel like natural immunity is low in my state because we hid from something that wasn't going anywhere. Now it seems to be our turn to face the music.

 

[Dizneykid]

We all know the risk of going in public and traveling increases that risk. She tested halfway through our week for her job and was negative. That is how we know she got it at WDW. She is an Infectious Diseases RN, so we have been doing all those things for years, already.

She hasn't been able to take a vacation for over 2 years. If you understand what infectious diseases are, you know why.

My point in sharing was to let people know that they can still catch covid while at WDW.

She didn't have symptoms?

 

[correcaminos]

The north is having a surge right now. My area has a VERY high vaccination rate and numbers rising more each day. Sometimes I wonder if we merely postponed the inevitable by having stricter rules up here for longer. I feel like natural immunity is low in my state because we hid from something that wasn't going anywhere. Now it seems to be our turn to face the music.

Natural immunity for omicron isn't great though. They are finding the ability to neutralize newer omicron variants among unvaccinated particularly is an issue.

 

[mikejs78]

It’s almost a rite of passage when someone gets some good ol’ WDW food poisoning

DW got food poisoning on our honeymoon at WDW and one other time at Ragalan Road (we know because we met another couple for dinner there and we all got it...). Happens.

The north is having a surge right now. My area has a VERY high vaccination rate and numbers rising more each day. Sometimes I wonder if we merely postponed the inevitable by having stricter rules up here for longer. I feel like natural immunity is low in my state because we hid from something that wasn't going anywhere. Now it seems to be our turn to face the music.

I wouldn't call this a huge surge (I'm here in MA and have been as covid-cautious as anyone). The numbers aren't even close to what they were in Jan/Feb. Hospitalizations are still low. We need to get away from looking at case counts alone (they are still important but not nearly as much as they were for Alpha/Delta and even the first Omicron wave). Plus we should be nearing the peak based on past history.

 

[networkpro]

mild symptoms? vaccinated?

2x Moderna, 2 boosters. very mild symptoms, like a short cold. 1 week and done.

 

[correcaminos]

2x Moderna, 2 boosters. very mild symptoms, like a short cold. 1 week and done.

Sounds better than my crappy sinus infection I have. Which isn't bad but not a lot can be done when it's just really bad inflammation due to allergies. Yes I tested too to be safe. Seriously very glad it was so mild!

 

[Heelz2315]

I wouldn't call this a huge surge (I'm here in MA and have been as covid-cautious as anyone). The numbers aren't even close to what they were in Jan/Feb. Hospitalizations are still low. We need to get away from looking at case counts alone (they are still important but not nearly as much as they were for Alpha/Delta and even the first Omicron wave). Plus we should be nearing the peak based on past history.

Just curious, why do you think/figure we're nearing the peak?

 

[ToTBellHop]

Just curious, why do you think/figure we're nearing the peak?

We’ve been increasing for as long as we did for prior peaks.

And the hospitals are not particularly strained up here. Too much emphasis is placed on “cases are up 33% over 2 weeks ago!” when it’s a 33% increase from a relatively low number. But that headline gets more clicks than “hospitalizations in New York State still down 80% since January.”

 

[Heelz2315]

I hope you're correct. If so we'll peak soon and be heading downward maybe by the end of the month/first of June.

 

[Incomudro]

We’ve been increasing for as long as we did for prior peaks.

And the hospitals are not particularly strained up here. Too much emphasis is placed on “cases are up 33% over 2 weeks ago!” when it’s a 33% increase from a relatively low number. But that headline gets more clicks than “hospitalizations in New York State still down 80% since January.”

"Percentage Increases" are one of the worse (mostly as in misleading) metrics used by the media.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Natural immunity for omicron isn't great though. They are finding the ability to neutralize newer omicron variants among unvaccinated particularly is an issue.

If I recall it was: unvaccinated <<< natural infection < vaccinated < vaccinated plus infection according to the last report I saw.

Not as good as vaccinated (or vaccinated plus infected) but still far better than unvaccinated.

Sounds better than my crappy sinus infection I have. Which isn't bad but not a lot can be done when it's just really bad inflammation due to allergies. Yes I tested too to be safe. Seriously very glad it was so mild!

My allergies are trying to kill me right now, between wanting to scratch my eyes out and never ending congestion and mucus I’m over this season already. Claritin, Claritin D, Flonase, Musinex… I even splurged and bought the Navage and although I can breathe through my nose again I’m still suffering. Worst allergy season I can remember.

 

[correcaminos]

If I recall it was: unvaccinated <<< natural infection < vaccinated < vaccinated plus infection according to the last report I saw.

Not as good as vaccinated (or vaccinated plus infected) but still far better than unvaccinated.



My allergies are trying to kill me right now, between wanting to scratch my eyes out and never ending congestion and mucus I’m over this season already. Claritin, Claritin D, Flonase, Musinex… I even splurged and bought the Navage and although I can breathe through my nose again I’m still suffering. Worst allergy season I can remember.

This was one of a few I was reading specific to omicron https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2202542?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article

I'm beyond done with allergies too. I had to go inside to drop something off with a mask on. Walked by a blooming bush on my way out while taking the mask off and wound up putting it right back on. Fortunately for me my nose rarely is the issue but sinus pain and then draining to my throat happens. The not sleeping at night is sucking royally since laying down causes the drip to be awful.

At the vet a tech who was the foster mom to my boy and I were talking about allergies for myself and my other cat and she's suggested Xyzal because hers were so bad. I ordered a free trial to see if they are good. Feels like forever to arrive. My cat will have blood tests done soon to see if they can give her allergy shots. We're both suffering lol

 

[ToTBellHop]

If I recall it was: unvaccinated <<< natural infection < vaccinated < vaccinated plus infection according to the last report I saw.

Not as good as vaccinated (or vaccinated plus infected) but still far better than unvaccinated.



My allergies are trying to kill me right now, between wanting to scratch my eyes out and never ending congestion and mucus I’m over this season already. Claritin, Claritin D, Flonase, Musinex… I even splurged and bought the Navage and although I can breathe through my nose again I’m still suffering. Worst allergy season I can remember.

I’m vaxxed, boosted, and have had Covid 3X. I have so much antibody that I sometimes levitate 6 inches off the ground but I cannot yet control this new superpower.

I am working with a mentor. He tells me I’m one booster away from greatness.

 

[danlb_2000]

If I recall it was: unvaccinated <<< natural infection < vaccinated < vaccinated plus infection according to the last report I saw.

There is probably not much debate about the first and last, but I think things are little muddier with the middle two and may vary based on a lot of factors.

 

[correcaminos]

There is probably not much debate about the first and last, but I think things are little muddier with the middle two and may vary based on a lot of factors.

If you read the article you'll find that with omicron the waters aren't as muddied as you think in the middle. That's the newer findings for omicron.

 

[danlb_2000]

If you read the article you'll find that with omicron the waters aren't as muddied as you think in the middle. That's the newer findings for omicron.

I don't see anything in that article comparing natural infection vs vaccination.

 

[correcaminos]

I don't see anything in that article comparing natural infection vs vaccination.

Because I stupidly linked the wrong article

'Natural immunity': How effective is it against omicron? – DW – 01/14/2022

As omicron outbreaks take over, many people are asking: Could the immunity you get from a COVID infection be the best protection against the virus, especially as it continues to mutate? We looked at the latest science.

www.dw.com

One study published in late October 2021 by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found unvaccinated adults who tested positive three to six months earlier werefive times more likely to test positive for the virus than vaccinated adults who hadn’t previously been infected

Though really this has been discussed that the middle group has shown vaccines are better than natural infection for a while now. Many studies you can google as well as I can but look how much it drops with each variant

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2200133

Vaccination against omicron with booster: This analysis showed that protection against severe disease remained at 68% or higher for at least 7 months, even in people who had only received two vaccine doses, and shot up to over 80% after a booster dose. Abu-Raddad says that because 70-80% of the pooled cases were BA.2, he suspects that vaccines still offer a high level of protection against severe disease in the face of surging BA.2 levels

 

[MaryJaneP]

2x Moderna, 2 boosters. very mild symptoms, like a short cold. 1 week and done.

Here's hoping you and yours get well soon.

 

[Ayla]

After 2+ years, I finally tested positive tonight.