Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[danlb_2000]

Wondering if some of that can be contributed to the massive increase in opioid overdose deaths we have seen over the pandemic, and especially last year? I don’t know how excess deaths work exactly or if those were already accounted for/forecasted. But this specific increase has been ridiculous.

“COVID-19 accounted for roughly 72% of the excess deaths we’re calculating, and that’s similar to what our earlier studies showed. There is a sizable gap between the number of publicly reported COVID-19 deaths and the sum total of excess deaths the country has actually experienced,” Woolf said.

For the other 28% of the nation’s 522,368 excess deaths during that period, some may actually have been from COVID-19, even if the virus was not listed on the death certificates due to reporting issues.

But Woolf said disruptions caused by the pandemic were another cause of the 28% of excess deaths not attributed to COVID-19. Examples might include deaths resulting from not seeking or finding adequate care in an emergency such as a heart attack, experiencing fatal complications from a chronic disease such as diabetes, or facing a behavioral health crisis that led to suicide or drug overdose."

U.S. deaths normally change less than 2% each year. In 2020, they rose nearly 23%.

Black Americans experienced highest per capita excess death rates, while regional surges contributed to higher excess death rates from COVID-19 and other causes, a VCU-led JAMA study finds.

news.vcu.edu

 

[GoofGoof]

Can’t we all just celebrate? I mean look at this map and all that green! It’s time to kick back, drop your guard, and do things you’ve been holding off on for fear of Covid. Remember, under new guidelines the CDC doesn’t recommend indoor masks unless you’re in an orange county.

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I agree. Time to embrace the positive and enjoy this. Tough sell though for a lot of people who are having a hard time letting the 2+ year old arguments go. Today is officially the 2 year anniversary from when the WHO declared a worldwide pandemic. The pandemic is not officially over yet, but it definitely feels good anyway.

 

[Lilofan]

I agree. Time to embrace the positive and enjoy this. Tough sell though for a lot of people who are having a hard time letting the 2+ year old arguments go. Today is officially the 2 year anniversary from when the WHO declared a worldwide pandemic. The pandemic is not officially over yet, but it definitely feels good anyway.

Time flies as it has been two years. If anyone thought the sky was falling and bought and loaded up on Moderna stock late 2019 and sold two years later , kudos to them in making a tremendous profit. The stock made its CEO a billionaire.

 

[GoofGoof]

Time flies as it has been two years. If anyone thought the sky was falling and bought and loaded up on Moderna stock late 2019 and sold two years later , kudos to them in making a tremendous profit. The stock made its CEO a billionaire.

In this case….well earned. Who knows how many lives were saved by having those vaccines and how much negative economic impact we avoided. Truly a miracle that those companies were able to create and manufacture the vaccines so quickly. Probably one of the top scientific achievements of my lifetime.

 

[Living the Life]

@Touchdown "FTFY. Other then the Burnside you can’t have facial hair and wear an N95z."
That may depend on the N95. I have a moustache and I achieve an excellent fit with an American-made "duckbill" N95. The large, sideways "pouch" makes it 75% more breathable than the NIOSH-certified minimum requirement for non-medical N95s, and the unique strap-mounting system easily avoids the usual moustache mask issues. Of course, it does look ... "distinctive," understandable, since it was designed for industrial uses.

For my upcoming WDW trip, I was thinking of ways I could color the mask to make it look like Donald Duck:

Maybe not.

How about not wearing a mask?

 

[Communicora]

@Touchdown "FTFY. Other then the Burnside you can’t have facial hair and wear an N95z."
That may depend on the N95. I have a moustache and I achieve an excellent fit with an American-made "duckbill" N95. The large, sideways "pouch" makes it 75% more breathable than the NIOSH-certified minimum requirement for non-medical N95s, and the unique strap-mounting system easily avoids the usual moustache mask issues. Of course, it does look ... "distinctive," understandable, since it was designed for industrial uses.

For my upcoming WDW trip, I was thinking of ways I could color the mask to make it look like Donald Duck:

Maybe not.

Ha. I love it!

There are duckbill masks that come in orange (I haven't bought anything from this site, so this isn't an endorsement).

Kimberly-Clark® N95 Orange Respirator & Surgical Mask -Reg | Sunrise Supply

Kimberly-Clark® N95 Orange Respirator & Surgical Mask -Reg | Orange particulate filter respirator and surgical mask. Pouch-style with fluid-resistant layer. Large breathing chamber. Two polyurethane headbands secure the mask to the face to help ensure a tight facial seal and prevent leakage...

www.sunrisesupplyinc.com

 

[danlb_2000]

How about not wearing a mask?

Probably because the op want's to give themselves some protection. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[MisterPenguin]

You could dismiss the excess death count if it was a small change, but it wasn't. From year to year in the US the excess death count normally fluctuates by 1% to 2%. In 2020 it increased by 22.9%. Even if that number was off by 50% it's still really bad.

Your continued attempts to minimize the impact of COVID really sicken me.

All those excess deaths? Motorcycle crashes!

 

[danlb_2000]

All those excess deaths? Motorcycle crashes!

You might be on to something.

 

[sedati]

I remember Walter Lord mentioning in his chronicling of Titanic survivors how many insisted they were on the last lifeboat. Who was on which boat and the order in which they departed was known, but he didn't contradict them. I'm sure as history recalls the Covid years we are going to hear about a lot of people who died and yet somehow, those in certain hard-hit demographics will claim to have never caught this plague.

 

[GimpYancIent]

You might be on to something.

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Hey! Easy to park, do not take up a lot of space, excellent gas mileage, why not. Harley stock should be ticking up.

 

[Disstevefan1]

You might be on to something.

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I love data science!

 

[FanforDisney]

It seems that Covid is far from over. Has any one notice the numbers coming out of South Korea and Germany? They are at record numbers for them.

South Korea COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

South Korea Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

 

[ToTBellHop]

It seems that Covid is far from over. Has any one notice the numbers coming out of South Korea and Germany? They are at record numbers for them.

South Korea COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

South Korea Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

Aren’t these their omicron surges?

 

[Smooth]

You never really "flatten the curve". You only delay it.

 

[MisterPenguin]

You never really "flatten the curve". You only delay it.

Delaying the number of cases that happen all at once is what 'flattening the curve" is all about so that our health care system isn't overwhelmed.

But, difficult to do when a new super-contagious variant comes out and there isn't the will to enact and enforce all the protocols to flatten the curve.

Notice the other curves previous to Omicron didn't spike like Omicron did.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

You could dismiss the excess death count if it was a small change, but it wasn't. From year to year in the US the excess death count normally fluctuates by 1% to 2%. In 2020 it increased by 22.9%. Even if that number was off by 50% it's still really bad.

It will be interesting to see if we have lower than average death rates for the next few years, since Covid hit the elderly so hard, or if Covid becoming endemic will maintain a higher than average count.

As bad as Covid19 was/is it could have been even more heartbreaking had it affected predominantly kids like the 1918 Spanish Flu did.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

It will be interesting to see if we have lower than average death rates for the next few years, since Covid hit the elderly so hard, or if Covid becoming endemic will maintain a higher than average count.

As bad as Covid19 was/is it could have been even more heartbreaking had it affected predominantly kids like the 1918 Spanish Flu did.

I get what you are saying about if it was more aimed at kids then adults. But it is a pet peeve of mine when news channels focus on just tge kids being killed. It happens with any story with deaths. Just like tge war.” A building was bombed today and 15 people dies, 2 of them children”. Or something along those lines. I think it just plsys into tge natural response of people to say thats so disheartening. I get it but 13 people besides children died. Its all disheartening.
But, as i said, I understand your point and how many people would think the same.

 

[Smooth]

How Hong Kong went from 'zero-Covid' to the world's highest death rate

Despite having two years to prepare, critics say the government was caught off-guard by a virus outbreak that has killed thousands of unvaccinated seniors.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Tom P.]

I get what you are saying about if it was more aimed at kids then adults. But it is a pet peeve of mine when news channels focus on just tge kids being killed. It happens with any story with deaths. Just like tge war.” A building was bombed today and 15 people dies, 2 of them children”. Or something along those lines. I think it just plsys into tge natural response of people to say thats so disheartening. I get it but 13 people besides children died. Its all disheartening.
But, as i said, I understand your point and how many people would think the same.

It is more disheartening to have children die than adults. I can't imagine anyone would disagree.