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correcaminos
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We were looking at that last night and also the old CDC map. It really made me smile to see this one. Even the old one looked very promising.
sullyinMT
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Just to add:
Those counties in MT and WY aren’t very populated. I can’t speak to the other states but I’m guessing most are rural. As we discussed some time ago, small outbreaks or delayed reporting in such areas make for very wide swings in numbers. Even in my county, we had a recent data “catch-up” in case reporting that made things look way worse than they really are right now. We should be green, and we account for roughly 15% of the state population. Another county, which is about 9% of the pop, just had a similar situation.
It is for this reason that I THINK the TSA guidelines for interstate travel will reflect a more “national community impact.” If we wait for that whole map to be green (or even yellow) for 2+ weeks, then small rural counties will continue to hold us back even when 90%+ of the nation’s residents and citizens live in a “green” area and our national level reflects that as green overall.
DisneyCane
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Yet it was very important to extend the transportation mask mandate even though the orange probably covers 2% of the population now and will be even less by a week from now assuming the trends continue. The remaining "orange" counties (lowercase) are pretty much all very rural which means that they may only have a handful of hospital beds in the county. Therefore, 1 or 2 COVID inpatients can make them too high on the metric.
Heck, by the end of next week, over half of the population will probably live in counties that wouldn't have been recommended to mask under the old "community transmission" guidelines.
Chip Chipperson
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Ahhh, that old gag.
willtravel
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I didn't realize that 59 years of age is considered old. Baby boomers start date is 1964.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
1946-64 I believe....but yes, the 80+ group falls out of this range.
Just in time for St. Patrick’s day!
Incomudro
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Is it any surprise that the average American would fair poorly against a serious respiratory disease?
If the media cared, if the government cared, heck... if the people themselves cared - they would do something about the health of the average American and to educate the younger generations so that we would have a stronger and healthier population going forward.
On the whole, none of them care.
Not even the people themselves, because most of them are going to go back to their ways, and make zero changes for their own health.
Slapping a mask on their face was as far as they were willing to go.
Chip Chipperson
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Not everyone was willing to even go that far.
Incomudro
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Your last paragraph, as an RN this is something my wife has first hand experience with.
There are people in certain categories that are much more likely to do poorly when faced with certain illnesses, and yes - when hospitalized.
She'll say to me sometimes "You'll be fine" because she knows from experience that I don't fit certain profiles. (yes, there is always the off chance)
But her mother - about 80 years old, a lifelong smoker (quit maybe a year ago) with COPD, and a good 150lbs overweight - is another story.
I love my mother in law, but we don't pose the same risks.
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Incomudro
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Yes, and that was temporary.
Taking care of yourself is a lifelong commitment.
Incomudro
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My wife works for an assisted living facility, and has worked for more than one of those - as well as at least one nursing home since covid broke out.
She switched jobs a couple of times because she didn't like the way some of those places were conducting themselves.
I truly believed, and I'm glad it didn't happen - that covid was going to kill off entire nursing home populations.
mousefan1972
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I don't. Considering that Massachusetts just yesterday reported a "significant overcount of Covid deaths". As in over 4,000.
"From March 2020 to March 2021, DPH counted the death of any person who had previously tested positive for COVID-19 as a COVID-related death, regardless of how much time elapsed between those two events.
Even if someone contracted the virus in March and died in a car crash in July, they were added to the ongoing tally of pandemic deaths for that first year."
Full article: https://www.nbcboston.com/news/loca...ignificant-overcount-of-covid-deaths/2665981/
DisneyCane
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Well golly gee, you don't say. I can't even count the number of posts in this thread berating posters for the suggestion that those things were happening.
GimpYancIent
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Yes! Short, to the point and high impact statement.
sedati
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Excess deaths is the only reliable measurement though we can only read it in hindsight. Everything else is just trying to see which way the wind is blowing.
www.economist.com
The United States is short by almost 100,000. There are estimates that world is looking at a number triple of the official count which just passed 6,000,000.
Tracking covid-19 excess deaths across countries
In many parts of the world, official death tolls undercount the total number of fatalities
DisneyCane
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"Excess deaths" can only be accurate to an extent. They are based upon first predicting how many deaths there would have been. As with anything in statistics, that involves confidence intervals. In reality, the excess deaths should be presented as a range with a confidence interval, not an absolute number.Excess deaths is the only reliable measurement though we can only read it in hindsight. Everything else is just trying to see which way the wind is blowing.
The United States is short by almost 100,000. There are estimates that world is looking at a number triple of the official count which just passed 6,000,000.Tracking covid-19 excess deaths across countries
In many parts of the world, official death tolls undercount the total number of fatalities
danlb_2000
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You could dismiss the excess death count if it was a small change, but it wasn't. From year to year in the US the excess death count normally fluctuates by 1% to 2%. In 2020 it increased by 22.9%. Even if that number was off by 50% it's still really bad.
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Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Wondering if some of that can be contributed to the massive increase in opioid overdose deaths we have seen over the pandemic, and especially last year? I don’t know how excess deaths work exactly or if those were already accounted for/forecasted. But this specific increase has been ridiculous.
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