Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[correcaminos]

it’s anyone guess when that’ll be. Nobody knows

True, but we are talking when, but not if. They don't want these forever - they made that apparent this summer. They just really didn't want to flip flop with cases likely which is why November didn't drop for a few weeks.

 

[drizgirl]

In my area there are still notable shortages so reserving items online for pickup saves trips walking through the store only to discover that whatever you came in for is sold out.

Except if it shows out of stock for store pick-up, it will show out of stock for curbside as well. Either inventory shows it's there or not. Sometimes I look at online stock to decide if it's worth going out to purchase.

 

[Nubs70]

Those COVID-19 tests the government sent you might not work. Cold weather could be to blame.

Millions of coronavirus tests are traveling across the nation, many through winter weather. Freezing temperatures could affect test results, experts say.

www.usatoday.com

 

[DisneyHead123]

Except if it shows out of stock for store pick-up, it will show out of stock for curbside as well. Either inventory shows it's there or not. Sometimes I look at online stock to decide if it's worth going out to purchase.

I use it as a “check and reserve” system, because items can sell out fast once stocked. For certain things at least - seasonal items (this winter I noticed it for gingerbread houses, sleds, kids gloves, etc.) and toddler milk go really fast, for example. If you’re not driving to the store right that second they might be gone.

 

[SingleRider]

Aside from having to wear a mask at my place of employment and the doctors office my life at home has been normal for a while. Most businesses and the gym I go to don’t require masks.

 

[Angel Ariel]

I think we are in the midst of a national mental health crisis that we will have to, collectively, recover from slowly.

The pandemic is and has been collective trauma. A collective trauma that society is essentially ignoring entirely.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

The pandemic is and has been collective trauma. A collective trauma that society is essentially ignoring entirely.

I’m in my late 40s and the only thing that has been comparable to this in my lifetime is 9/11.

We all have personal issues we deal with but it’s not very often the whole country, let alone the whole world, all suffer anxiety, fear, and loss at the same time.

I think the major difference between this and 9/11 is the duration. 9/11 was a quick event and then we could start the healing process, this has gone on for almost 2 years already and we are still experiencing daily anxiety, fear, and loss and we haven’t even been able to begin the healing process yet.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Income is not rising nearly as fast as inflation. Simple fact.

When has it ever? Simple fact wages have been behind inflation for decades.

 

[maui2k7]

It's almost like we should be doing more to get off our dependence on fossil fuels....

And now back to our regularly scheduled programming… We are taking this too far off topic.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

We all have personal issues we deal with but it’s not very often the whole country, let alone the whole world, all suffer anxiety, fear, and loss at the same time.

While some of this could be counted as anxiety and fear, I suffer from confusion.

Should I go to a concert? To Disney? Should I take a cruise? Should I go out to eat? Simple questions that now have complicated answers.

And then if I go anywhere, should I wear a mask? I feel more comfortable wearing a mask in crowded places but then I feel like people think I’m weird for wearing one in certain parts of the country.

 

[Disstevefan1]

The Footnotes in the graph say it all. Although it's more of a survey than a study. It's got 8 bits in the fine print that'll make it easy to take apart. (Not statistically significant)

Not statistically significant does indeed says it all. To bad folks dont read it. The charts only purpose is to please the mask fans, nothing wrong with that, but to see the reality folks gotta read everything in the graphic as the previous poster shows us.

 

[danlb_2000]

Not statistically significant does indeed says it all. To bad folks dont read it. The charts only purpose is to please the mask fans, nothing wrong with that, but to see the reality folks gotta read everything in the graphic as the previous poster shows us.

So because the study said that there is no statistical significance when wearing a cloth mask, you ignore that fact that is says the wearing other types of masks does have benefit? Also, remember this study only looks at the benefit of masks to the wearer, it doesn't look at the benefit to others.

 

[Andrew C]

So because the study said that there is no statistical significance when wearing a cloth mask, you ignore that fact that is says the wearing other types of masks does have benefit? Also, remember this study only looks at the benefit of masks to the wearer, it doesn't look at the benefit to others.

And it doesn’t even take into account omicron. This is from before that. And it still shows how crap cloth masks were at that time. Even crappier against omicron.

 

[danlb_2000]

And it doesn’t even take into account omicron. This is from before that. And it still shows how crap cloth masks were at that time. Even crappier against omicron.

This isn't really anything new. From the very beginning we have known that the primary benefit of masks was to reduce spread from infected people. Protection for the wearer was a smaller side benefit which has been reduced even more with the newer variants.

 

[Nubs70]

56% improvement is not statistically significant?

 

[mmascari]

56% improvement is not statistically significant?

Look at the rest of the data, the tables, and write up. Along with what that footnote applies to and doesn't apply to exactly.

The Confidence Interval for the Cloth Mask data wasn't good enough. So, a 56% reduction based on what they saw, but not great confidence in it.

The Surgical mask and N95/KN95 respirator data had much better modeling results and Confidence Interval.

Which essentially means, wearing a cloth mask will help you protect others from you some, but wearing a Surgical/N95/KN95 will both help protect others from you and protect you from others.

Anyone still wearing just cloth, thank you for offering us some protection. But, really, upgrade your mask to help yourself more too.

I know that I've moved to Surgical for most stuff, and to KN95 for stuff that's extra covidity. The rest of the family mostly too. Unless it's something that's barely covidity at all, but then warmth might be the bigger driver to wearing something.

Alternatively, it's all junk and type of mask wearing is just an indicator for other behaviors, correlation not causation. Maybe all those mask wearer are just doing/not doing something else different. Still good to know, as it's a easy indicator for someone who is doing/not doing whatever that other thing is.

 

[The Mom]

Posters are getting way off topic again and some are dipping into the political waters.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

When Orange county turns blue...

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COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

My guess is on yellow rather than blue.

Despite record breaking numbers over the last month Disney is bringing back shows, parades, meet and greets, etc, they seem to be returning to normal regardless of the Covid numbers, similar to many European countries announcing they are moving on despite their case counts, I think Disney wants normal to return as much as any of us do and they’ll remove masks as soon as they can make a socially acceptable case to do so.

Whether blue or yellow I expect any announcement to be accompanied by a “policies subject to change” warning while booking for quite a while, Disney is going to make it crystal clear that the mandate may come back at any time.

 

[SingleRider]

I wonder if the CDC will do away with the current tiering system and base it more on hospitalizations/deaths in a certain area instead.

 

[Chi84]

I wonder if the CDC will do away with the current tiering system and base it more on hospitalizations/deaths in a certain area instead.

That was my thought too. Not that Disney will go against the CDC's recommendations, but that those recommendations could change based on newer data from the most recent variant.