Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Ah. Shut up and ask no questions. Got it.

How much more proof do you need? Been asleep for 25 months, rip van winkle

this crossed the River from “my opinion” to “right and wrong” awhile ago…the River Styx

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/11/pfizer-omicron-specific-vaccine/?utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_main&crl8_id=fe924dd4-65ed-4bc8-8744-a2a7e99be143

I hope the pandemic will be end for the world by mid 2022 or late 2022.

The bright side is we are in a much better place to treat/prevent serious infection than we were a year ago

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

How much more proof do you need? Been asleep for 25 months, rip van winkle

this cross the River from “my opinion” to “right and wrong” awhile ago…the River Styx

i wasn’t aware boosters have been out for 25 months.

 

[sullyinMT]

i wasn’t aware boosters have been out for 25 months.

They’ve been out long enough to show that they’re good for piece of mind that a new fever and cough at 2am won’t be the start of a spiral into the ICU. If we’re going to be serious about “normal” and “living with this virus,” we need to be at a minimum vaccinated - and best data says boosted.

I’m all for people gathering their info. But please get it from reliable people in a respected field, not chiropractors selling new books on YouTube. I don’t seek investment advice from the surgeon I’m working for/with on any given day.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

They’ve been out long enough to show that they’re good for piece of mind that a new fever and cough at 2am won’t be the start of a spiral into the ICU. If we’re going to be serious about “normal” and “living with this virus,” we need to be at a minimum vaccinated - and best data says boosted if your post dose 2 by about 6-8 months at most.

I haven’t seen much to show that boosters Vs. “fully vaxed” keep people out of the hospital.

It’s a legit question... if the data is there please show me. I’m interested in seeing it.

 

[Lilofan]

Just buy them out of the pharmacists trunk...much easier.

Is this past experience , documented instances when it happened or a fantasy idea ?

 

[sullyinMT]

I haven’t seen much to show that boosters Vs. “fully vaxed” keep people out of the hospital.

It’s a legit question... if the data is there please show me. I’m interested in seeing it.

The gap between our current definition of vaxxed and boosted is small compared to unvaxxed. Unless you’re immunocompromised or other known risk.

Problem is, we’re all a year older now toward elderly. Most Americans are at minimum overweight/obese. It’s a roll of the dice I’m not willing to take. The booster (and vaccines) are well tolerated by orders of magnitude better than COVID. I realize that the percentages of hospitalization and death are low. Vaccine risk is still multiples lower. Vaccines and boosters are in our best interest - personally and societally.

 

[mmascari]

I’m all for people gathering their info. But please get it from reliable people in a respected field, not chiropractors selling new books on YouTube. I don’t seek investment advice from the surgeon I’m working for/with on any given day.

What about if stayed Holiday Inn Express last night?

 

[sullyinMT]

What about if stayed Holiday Inn Express last night?

You’re good for 24 hours. Then you need a cinnamon roll booster.

 

[Lilofan]

You’re good for 24 hours. Then you need a cinnamon roll booster.

Love the all u can eat hot/cold breakfast before hitting the road again..

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

i wasn’t aware boosters have been out for 25 months.

…goes to pattern

 

[mmascari]

I haven’t seen much to show that boosters Vs. “fully vaxed” keep people out of the hospital.

It’s a legit question... if the data is there please show me. I’m interested in seeing it.

Didn't one of our "prior infection is just as good as vaccination" posters post a study trying to show that position, but turned out what the study really showed was that if you were boosted, you were way better off than either prior infection or just the first vaccine doses?

 

[lazyboy97o]

I haven’t seen much to show that boosters Vs. “fully vaxed” keep people out of the hospital.

It’s a legit question... if the data is there please show me. I’m interested in seeing it.

The FDA publishes the information they use to make an authorization determination.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

They’ve been out long enough to show that they’re good for piece of mind that a new fever and cough at 2am won’t be the start of a spiral into the ICU. If we’re going to be serious about “normal” and “living with this virus,” we need to be at a minimum vaccinated - and best data says boosted.

I’m all for people gathering their info. But please get it from reliable people in a respected field, not chiropractors selling new books on YouTube. I don’t seek investment advice from the surgeon I’m working for/with on any given day.

I swear some people would let demo contractors do their dental work if they paid for ads on the preferred tv stations

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I haven’t seen much to show that boosters Vs. “fully vaxed” keep people out of the hospital.

It’s a legit question... if the data is there please show me. I’m interested in seeing it.

It’s not legit…all the authorized boosters have been proven via trials…same as Tylenol or Athletes Foot cream…

you’re just playing the “counter” and casting doubt unnecessarily, Senator

 

[tpoly88]

Plus an antibiotic for a virus. What doctor prescribed that???

Yep. the the virus causes bacterial pneumonia in a lot of cases and its why they will give you Doxycyline and a steroid for your lungs.

 

[Jrb1979]

What gets me is the vaccines have proven they work in keeping hospitalizations down and people from getting serious illness. Add that most say the only thing that matters is hospitalizations. Since all that is true, why are so many against things that get people vaccinated.

What we get instead is " maybe people should eat healthier" or "MaH fReEdOm" or " I did my part".

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Yep. the the virus causes bacterial pneumonia in a lot of cases and its why they will give you Doxycyline and a steroid for your lungs.

Is that typically used as a preventative or just as treatment if an infection develops?

 

[Chip Chipperson]

What gets me is the vaccines have proven they work in keeping hospitalizations down and people from getting serious illness. Add that most say the only thing that matters is hospitalizations. Since all that is true, why are so many against things that get people vaccinated.

What we get instead is " maybe people should eat healthier" or "MaH fReEdOm" or " I did my part".

Oddly enough, the people who were complaining the loudest in 2020 about "moving the goalposts" are often the same ones with ever-changing reasons for not getting vaccinated. Before, it was,, "If the vaccines work then why do you care if I don't get mine?" Now the reason is that mild breakthrough cases are "proof" that the vaccines don't work, as if anyone ever made the case that they're 100% effective at preventing infection at all.

 

[DisneyCane]

What gets me is the vaccines have proven they work in keeping hospitalizations down and people from getting serious illness. Add that most say the only thing that matters is hospitalizations. Since all that is true, why are so many against things that get people vaccinated.

What we get instead is " maybe people should eat healthier" or "MaH fReEdOm" or " I did my part".

It depends how you define "things that get people vaccinated." I support educating people about what the vaccines do and making them easily available at no cost. I also support PTO for a day if the vaccine side effects cause you to be unable to work.

I don't support things which either force people to get vaccinated or essentially force them by not allowing them to be employed without doing it. I believe that, at the end of the day, it should be a personal choice of what you want to have injected into you especially when the efficacy in reducing spread is not very high.

I believe it is the intelligent decision to get vaccinated but I don't believe that I should make that decision for somebody else.