Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Andrew C]

Correct!

This is the first two lines from the B.C. government's web-page. I pulled B.C. since it was the first English Language Province to put it in place.

And here are other quotes from the same release....
"By getting vaccinated prior to Sept. 13, every British Columbian can continue to access these events and settings."
"These new measures will help reduce transmission and keep our communities safe and ensure we can continue to keep businesses open and safely enjoy much-needed social events.”

And a quote from the below news article.
"REASONING FOR THE CARD
Horgan addressed claims he's heard that the passport is a way to impede basic services from government.
"There are many things that the vaccine card is, but there are many things that they are certainly not," he said.
Instead of thinking of it as limiting, he said, the card is meant to open things up, allowing those who have been vaccinated to take part in events that were previously shut down, or open in reduced capacity, earlier in the pandemic."

Details revealed of how B.C.'s COVID-19 vaccine passport system will work

Details of B.C.'s so-called 'vaccine passport' system have been revealed by health officials, and residents of the province are asked to sign up online or by phone.

bc.ctvnews.ca

Looking at Ontario....a quote from Ford on their passports in the below article.
"We have two options here. We either do this or we risk shutting down the economy, which would even be worse, having our hospital capacity maxed out and at the brink, having our kids stay at home, our college and university kids going back online. That is what we are trying to avoid.”

Ontario reveals vaccine passport system for restaurants, gyms and theatres. Here's what you need to know

Proof of COVID-19 vaccination will be required to access non-essential businesses in Ontario, including gyms, indoor restaurants, movie theatres and concert halls, under the province's new vaccine certification program starting Sept. 22.

toronto.ctvnews.ca

It is clear that one of the main objectives for vaccination passports is to increase the vaccine rates. I don't see that ever being in dispute. IMO, that part can be seen as a success. But please do not try to sell me on that being the sole reason for having them. That is just not accurate. That is just not how it was sold.

 

[Incomudro]

If that is the case good luck trying to buy meds for a sore throat. Store shelves from what I've seen are out of stock for weeks .

There are many people out there who believe that over the counter meds actually cure illnesses.

 

[Lilofan]

There are and always will be fringe opinions on both ends of the spectrum.

That is a unique way of sugar coating it. One end of the spectrum is a fringe slowly infecting the base.

 

[Lilofan]

There are many people out there who believe that over the counter meds actually cure illnesses.

Or use it to be under the influence. Everytime I buy cough meds, the cashier asks for and scans my drivers license.

 

[Andrew C]

Or use it to be under the influence. Everytime I buy cough meds, the cashier asks for and scans my drivers license.

Just buy them out of the pharmacists trunk...much easier.

 

[DisneyCane]

Plus an antibiotic for a virus. What doctor prescribed that???

I don't think any doctor is prescribing the antibiotic to treat the virus. I'm pretty sure it's to prevent a secondary infection by a bacteria while your immune system is in a weakened state. It's possible (I don't know) that ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine make you more susceptible to bacterial infection and that is why they came up with the combo with antibiotic.

The hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin combo I believe was "invented" in Europe early on and somewhat widely used. It wasn't just one or two doctors who somehow don't know that antibiotics don't treat viruses.

My ENT and his wife got COVID very early on and he swears that hydroxychloroquine worked for both. It was prescribed by an infectious disease specialist he knew and he said that the both were had coughs and a fever that wouldn't break for days. He said his wife's symptoms improved dramatically within hours of taking it. His didn't and the prescribing physician told him to double the dose after which his fever broke and he was pretty much over it completely within a day.

His experience was before the "controversy" surrounding using it as a treatment. Nobody can possibly know if it was just a coincidence or if it really worked but we need to stop thinking that anybody who advocates for certain treatment is some quack. My ENT had never indicated a desire to go outside of medical norms when treating me and he didn't ask for the treatment, it was prescribed by an infectious disease specialist.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Just buy them out of the pharmacists trunk...much easier.

It’s right next to the steaks in his trunk for 5 bucks a pound.

 

[Jrb1979]

Stockholm syndrome.

What is your issue with Canada? You continue to bash Canada and Canadians.

 

[Heppenheimer]

There are many people out there who believe that over the counter meds actually cure illnesses.

I had a non-COVID cold recently. Out of desperation, I bought some OTC phenylephrine, just for symptomatic relief.

I was yet again amazed how worthless this medication is for relief of symptoms.

I envy Canadians that can buy actual pseudoephedrine over the counter.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

I don't think any doctor is prescribing the antibiotic to treat the virus. I'm pretty sure it's to prevent a secondary infection by a bacteria while your immune system is in a weakened state. It's possible (I don't know) that ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine make you more susceptible to bacterial infection and that is why they came up with the combo with antibiotic.

The hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin combo I believe was "invented" in Europe early on and somewhat widely used. It wasn't just one or two doctors who somehow don't know that antibiotics don't treat viruses.

My ENT and his wife got COVID very early on and he swears that hydroxychloroquine worked for both. It was prescribed by an infectious disease specialist he knew and he said that the both were had coughs and a fever that wouldn't break for days. He said his wife's symptoms improved dramatically within hours of taking it. His didn't and the prescribing physician told him to double the dose after which his fever broke and he was pretty much over it completely within a day.

His experience was before the "controversy" surrounding using it as a treatment. Nobody can possibly know if it was just a coincidence or if it really worked but we need to stop thinking that anybody who advocates for certain treatment is some quack. My ENT had never indicated a desire to go outside of medical norms when treating me and he didn't ask for the treatment, it was prescribed by an infectious disease specialist.

Please, not this again.
Almost every major study from leading authorities have proven it doesn’t work. I was ready to post a hundred links but thought better of it. It can be dangerous in fact. In that case you mentioned, I’m guessing it was a coincidence.

 

[Andrew C]

I had a non-COVID cold recently. Out of desperation, I bought some OTC phenylephrine, just for symptomatic relief.

I was yet again amazed how worthless this medication is for relief of symptoms.

I envy Canadians that can buy actual pseudoephedrine over the counter.

When I went to Europe back in the day, I was amazed that you were able to buy legit allergy meds over the counter. This was prior to being able to do so in the US.

 

[Andrew C]

News today...The CDC says you can now drink at work if it helps you forget how short-staffed you are...

 

[Kevin_W]

I had a non-COVID cold recently. Out of desperation, I bought some OTC phenylephrine, just for symptomatic relief.

I was yet again amazed how worthless this medication is for relief of symptoms.

I envy Canadians that can buy actual pseudoephedrine over the counter.

phenylephrine and dextromethorphan are amazing scams. Why does every grocery store/pharmacy in the country stock and sell two drugs that clinical trials show are worth next to nothing?

 

[Incomudro]

What is your issue with Canada? You continue to bash Canada and Canadians.

My issue is that many Canadians on this page openly bash the US, and the US approach, while bragging about Canada's.
Those people can have Canada's approach, and it's results in covid, and in the rest of the spectrum - if that's the way they like to live.
If they'd like some more freedom, they can come south of the Great Lakes.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Just started reading John M. Barry’s The Great Influenza and right there at the top of page 4, “in the midst of [a polio] epidemic so extreme that New York City had required people to obtain passes to travel.” So restricting movement and access for public health isn’t “unprecedented”.

 

[sullyinMT]

I had a non-COVID cold recently. Out of desperation, I bought some OTC phenylephrine, just for symptomatic relief.

I was yet again amazed how worthless this medication is for relief of symptoms.

I envy Canadians that can buy actual pseudoephedrine over the counter.

Has VT blocked its purchase? It’s still OTC, but kept behind pharmacy counters and under strict purchase limits by US law. I’m sure you know that, hence the state specific question.

Thanks, Breaking Bad

 

[mmascari]

News today...The CDC says you can now drink at work if it helps you forget how short-staffed you are...

Is there a recommended number of drinks while walking around EPCOT to forget you can see the BBB?

 

[Jrb1979]

I'm amazed more and more everyday the amount of people who became Drs since Covid started. From people that seem to know what drugs work and what don't all the way to telling people how to diet.

My issue is that many Canadians on this page openly bash the US, and the US approach, while bragging about Canada's.
Those people can have Canada's approach, and it's results in covid, and in the rest of the spectrum - if that's the way they like to live.
If they'd like some more freedom, they can come south of the Great Lakes.

I have lots of freedom. I have lived my life like I normally have like most Canadians.
I may disagree with much of the US approach but I don't make condescending remarks.

 

[mmascari]

That would also mean Isreal which is on its 4th booster could be harming the individual. 250,000 thousand people in Isreal has had 4 covid shots!! In a little over a year. That's.. insane. Safe and effective though I guess. Right?

If you think 4 doses in "little over a year" is insane, this is going to blow your mind:

Immunization Schedules for 18 & Younger

View and print CDC recommended immunization schedules.

www.cdc.gov

There's a bunch with 4 in less than 18 months. Even more with 3 in less than a year or 6 months.

Why would we expect the COVID vaccine to be any different?


I really wish they hadn't called the shot after 5-6 months a "booster" but just the "next dose in the schedule". We'll find out if the full schedule is 3, 4, 5 or whatever eventually when we get there.

Hands up to my fellow J&J people who will likely be 1 less than everyone else, whatever the full schedule is. Heads down, that we might have been better off with 2 to start like the MRNA ones. We'll never know.

 

[Andrew C]

Is there a recommended number of drinks while walking around EPCOT to forget you can see the BBB?

Just says "excessive amount encouraged"