LittleBuford
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No-one here has yet offered any kind of explanation as to why the bolded is in any way a bad thing. So yes, I for one would indeed be very satisfied if everyone who was medically eligible got vaccinated.
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Archie123
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They can't because there isn't a logical explanation. Just more conspiracy theories that fall apart when you shine a light on them.
Andrew C
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True. Although I was referring to on a national or even global scale.
Vegas Disney Fan
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Probably because no one disputes it. Other than a couple trolls who make a controversial comment and then disappear no one here argues vaccines are bad. We argue masks and mandates but no regular posters actually argue vaccines are bad.
Andrew C
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Have we figured out why vaccinations are lagging so much for the 5-11 year olds? My vaccine supporting, masking and mitigation hating self thought it was a no brainer.
LittleBuford
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Yes, but several posters (most of them, perplexingly, vaccinated themselves) keep downplaying the beneficial effects of the vaccines, suggesting that it makes little or no difference if others remain unvaccinated. It's baffling and depressing in equal measure.
Im fairly infrequent in here. Could you quote the posts of what you are suggesting?
Andrew C
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Sad.
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Chicago Public Schools to close as teachers union votes on striking over COVID
Chicago Public Schools will close Wednesday as the Chicago Teachers Union votes on Tuesday to return to remote learning, according to local reports.
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US schools close again as children's mental health declared national crisis
Public school districts, mostly across the Northeast and Midwest, closed this week as the omicron variant of coronavirus surges following holiday breaks and students face a mental health crisis.
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It’s consistent with their other posts. If you view vaccination as only a personal benefit with no group component. In that context, one would want to get vaccinated, would recommend others vaccinate for their own good, and not care about the level of vaccination.
It’s wrong. Vaccination has always had a huge group component that’s as important as the individual benefit.
The vaccinated who are skipping the booster are more perplexing. Like they thought it was important enough to start the vaccination course and then just gave up before completing it. Like running two thirds of a race.
BuddyThomas
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New variant “ihu” detected in France. Possibly more infectious than Omicron.
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France detects new COVID-19 variant 'IHU', more infectious than Omicron: All we know about it
The new variant — B.1.640.2 — which has been detected in 12 patients near Marseille, contains 46 mutations, making it more resistant to vaccines and infectious
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New variant “ihu” detected in France. Possibly more infectious than Omicron.
France detects new COVID-19 variant 'IHU', more infectious than Omicron: All we know about it
The new variant — B.1.640.2 — which has been detected in 12 patients near Marseille, contains 46 mutations, making it more resistant to vaccines and infectious
I wouldn't exactly panic yet...
WHO says COVID-19 variant found in France is not a threat
The variant was identified in 12 people in Southern France around the same time that Omicron was discovered in South Africa in November.
I was confused... " 'IHU' isn't a Greek letter!! "New variant “ihu” detected in France. Possibly more infectious than Omicron.
France detects new COVID-19 variant 'IHU', more infectious than Omicron: All we know about it
The new variant — B.1.640.2 — which has been detected in 12 patients near Marseille, contains 46 mutations, making it more resistant to vaccines and infectious
Had to read other articles to get that it's the initials of the agency that identified it.
If WHO gets involved, it could be renamed PI.
BuddyThomas
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I’m not panicked at all but it’s something to keep an eye on.I wouldn't exactly panic yet...
WHO says COVID-19 variant found in France is not a threat
The variant was identified in 12 people in Southern France around the same time that Omicron was discovered in South Africa in November.fortune.com
Vegas Disney Fan
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I think that‘s more about acceptance (or dread) than anything else, I can write a thousand posts about how I want 100% to be vaccinated but it doesn’t change the fact that a sizable chunk of Americans never will be, and even if we could miraculously get all Americans vaccinated the rest of the world wouldn’t be.
When the goal was 70% I think we were all optimistic, the Vaccines came out, the cases were drastically down, and the end looked near, then Delta (originated in India) hit and cases skyrocketed again and we were back at square one, when the experts started saying 80-90% vaccinated I think reality started to settle in that Covid wasn’t going away. Now with Omicron (originating in Africa) it feels like a done deal, we (global we) aren’t beating this with vaccines, at least not the ones we have now that aren’t as effective against the new strains. If the new strain (originating in France) catches hold it just further emphasizes that this isn’t going to end.
The great news is we’ve got vaccines that make it a minor illness (in the vast number of cases) so we’ve got a way to live with it.
StarWarsGirl
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So I'm that person. I was on a plane and the lady sitting next to me had her mask off. Not briefly to eat or anything. She started sleeping with it off. Considering that it's the law and my 82 year old grandmother was also there, I pressed the call button for a flight attendant, who made her put the mask back on.
I swear, we've been doing this for how long now? It's not that hard.
I swear, we've been doing this for how long now? It's not that hard.
I have reread it and the whole thread and I did totally misunderstand. My apologies.
Vegas Disney Fan
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Couple interesting articles today on ABCnews. The first was that Omicron now makes up 95% of US Covid cases, the second was that 50% of the Covid patients in Orlando and Miami hospitals are being treated for reasons other than Covid and 60% of Jacksonville Covid patients are in the hospital for reasons other than Covid. They tested positive though so they are counted in the Covid hospitalization totals. The bad news is that makes it harder to know how many serious Omicron cases there are, the good news is Omicron may be more decoupled than the numbers show.
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COVID-19 updates: Classes in Chicago canceled for 4th day
As the COVID-19 pandemic has swept the globe, more than 5.4 million people have died from the disease worldwide, including over 837,000 Americans.
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Today's NY Times numbers. The US is now up to 165 per 100k. NY is at 342, NJ is at 331 and Florida is at 263. NYC is at 457 and Essex County is at 505.
These number are horrible and increasing. However there was only a tiny increase in average cases in NY today, only 351 plus the actual number of cases for the second staight day is below the 7 day average. Therefore it may be possible that NY is now topping out.
These number are horrible and increasing. However there was only a tiny increase in average cases in NY today, only 351 plus the actual number of cases for the second staight day is below the 7 day average. Therefore it may be possible that NY is now topping out.
That's good you acted. On recent flights on United the staff several times on the intercom warned us the passengers non compliance of mask wearing with the exception of eating and drinking would be subject to penalties including being arrested at our destination airport. Fortunately we did not have any Karens acting out on the planes I was in.
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