Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[thomas998]

Just spoke with a family member who is in senior management at GE aviation. They are laying off 10% of their workforce. Not furloughed, firing.

They were told that none of their jobs are safe- from senior management down.
I’m sure they’ll all be fine though, since their income is over $100k per year.

This is a mess.

Unless GE had changed and become a kinder gentler corporation, they used to have a policy where they culled 5 to 10 percent of their management every year. At least that was how it was when I was leaving grad school, I remember classmates that went there, some lasted and some didn't. So I would expect management types to have always been living like the were facing a firing squad even in good times.

The people that will be really hurting are the guys actually making the engines, highly skilled machinists that will have a hard time finding anything close to what they had.

 

[easyrowrdw]

From here..

A Coronavirus Quarantine in America Could Be a Giant Legal Mess

America’s defense against epidemics is divided among more than 2,000 individual public-health departments, which makes implementing a national strategy very difficult.

www.theatlantic.com

In the U.S., quarantine is the most extreme use of government power over people who have committed no crime. As a legal matter, the U.S. Supreme Court recognized a seemingly unlimited local power to quarantine as early as 1824, in the case Gibbons v. Ogden. It reaffirmed this power in 1900, noting that “from an early day the power of the States to enact and enforce quarantine laws for the safety and the protection of the health of their inhabitants … is beyond question.”​

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Government officials can prevent travel, require vaccinations, make people submit to medical exams, and commandeer private property. Even those who are not sick can be ordered into quarantine—confined to their home or another location with others who may also have been exposed to a virus. When quarantine is medically justified, individual rights give way to the greater good. As the Court stated in Jacobson v. Massachusetts in 1905, “Upon the principle of self-defense, of paramount necessity, a community has the right to protect itself against an epidemic of disease which threatens the safety of its members.” The constitutional structure tolerates such substantial restriction of liberties for at least a limited time in a true public-health emergency. That said, constitutional protections during quarantine do exist. For example, health officials must use the least restrictive means consistent with medical guidance, and the government must have good reason to believe you’ve been exposed.​

If any body thinks this current Supreme Court isn't going to back expansive presidential powers in a crisis... you've not been paying attention.

And yes, you'll find quotes arguing the opposite, but they're from scholars and people who argue the government shouldn't have such powers. Which is, in effect, acknowledging that the government does indeed have such powers.

The article says the power resides largely with the states, which is what I've seen folks saying. That's distinct from the Feds. Again, this is noted in the article you cite...

"Except at the nation’s borders, the federal government, with the expertise of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, is not [emphasis in original] in charge. America’s defense against epidemics is divided among 2,684 state, local, and tribal public-health departments.... States may choose to ignore federal quarantine guidelines, or they may decide that more drastic measures are required, such as a lockdown against a neighboring city or region."

The article also advocates for giving the federal government more power, as they don't hold much of the power currently.

 

[Lilofan]

Just spoke with a family member who is in senior management at GE aviation. They are laying off 10% of their workforce. Not furloughed, firing.

They were told that none of their jobs are safe- from senior management down.
I’m sure they’ll all be fine though, since their income is over $100k per year.

This is a mess.

Reminds me of bad times in 2008 where my company laid off 10%. I made the cut but all levels felt the cuts, just walked out the door, no good byes.

 

[21stamps]

Unless GE had changed and become a kinder gentler corporation, they used to have a policy where they culled 5 to 10 percent of their management every year. At least that was how it was when I was leaving grad school, I remember classmates that went there, some lasted and some didn't. So I would expect management types to have always been living like the were facing a firing squad even in good times.

The people that will be really hurting are the guys actually making the engines, highly skilled machinists that will have a hard time finding anything close to what they had.

A big portion of the layoffs will be the engineers, including management.

 

[GoofGoof]

Reminds me of bad times in 2008 where my company laid off 10%. I made the cut but all levels felt the cuts, just walked out the door, no good byes.

I just went through it over the last 2 years. It was done in phases and done at all levels from VPs down to grunt workers. Layoffs suck. It sucks for the people laid off and it sucks for the people who get to stay who typically inherit a lot more work and no extra reward for it. You are expected to be happy you still have a job.

 

[Nubs70]

I saw on TV that Spain has to store some of the overflow deceased in a hockey ice rink.

I believe someone mentioned something about that a few pages back.

 

[DCBaker]

Jane Castor will issue a "stay at home" for the city of Tampa.

However, the County Administrator Mike Merrill issued an order saying she can’t do it.

Tampa Mayor Jane Castor and Hillsborough County tussle over stay-at-home order

The mayor has ordered city residents to stay home starting Wednesday at midnight. County Administrator Mike Merrill issued an order saying she can’t do it.

t.co

 

[JohnD]

Leon County issues 'stay-at-home order,' curfew amid coronavirus pandemic

Local officials announced a stay-at-home order Tuesday following the lead of other areas with confirmed cases of coronavirus around the state.

www.tallahassee.com

 

[cjrciadtster]

Stay at home order for Orange County!!!

 

[note2001]

I saw on TV that Spain has to store some of the overflow deceased in a hockey ice rink.

To be forever known by the local kids as the haunted ice rink.

 

[MrConbon]

Universal is staying closed through April 19th

 

[ToTBellHop]

Hey, I’ve recovered from Covid-19 so I’m good to travel! Can I get a RotR BG for tomorrow?

 

[ToTBellHop]

Universal is staying closed through April 19th

Disney will do the same, as I’ve said.

 

[Bob Harlem]

Universal is staying closed through April 19th

 

[Jwink]

It doesn't mention pay for their employees Did the last update????

 

[celluloid]

Florida is in the top ten of states with cases of Covid-19 as of this morning. If Florida thinks merely quarantining out of state travel will solve their problem they are mistaken. Covid-19 is in Florida in huge numbers with small hotspots all around the state and growing each day. On friday there were 500 ish cases in Florida it doubled in less then 4 days.

New York-20,875 Cases and 157 deaths
NewJersey-2,844 Cases and 27 deaths
California-2,240 Cases and 39 deaths
Washington-2,101 Cases and 109 deaths
Michigan-1,324 Cases and 16 deaths
Illinois-1,285 Cases and 12 deaths
Florida-1,222 Cases and 16 deaths
Louisiana-1,172 Cases and 34 deaths
Georgia-800 Cases and 25 deaths
Massachusetts-777 Cases and 5 deaths

The other aspect is that competition is obviously very strong in the Orlando theme park market. If Comcast continues to proceed with Epic Universe, Disney isn't going to cut their projects.

It doesn't mention pay for their employees Did the last update????

Yes. It does mention on the Team Member version average hourly weekly calculation for part and full time. Salaried continues.

 

[WEDway Inc & Company LLC]

Clickbait says Closed until at least April 9th with Shelter in Place Order

 

[thomas998]

Sorry should have been more specific.

I was referring to the total number of cases which appear to be somewhat slowing down. But like you mentioned, still a little too early to be certain.

That number can also still be very misleading. I understand in places like LA they don't even bother to test anymore and if you have the symptoms they just assume you have it, but if they don't do an actual test you still wouldn't show up in the official numbers.

 

[ToTBellHop]

It doesn't mention pay for their employees Did the last update????

Interesting. Obviously these companies won’t pay employees forever, but surely through 4/19 is doable. We will see if 5 weeks is enough. For a week now, 4/20 has been the best case scenario.

 

[TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives]

It doesn't mention pay for their employees Did the last update????

• For the period April 1 – 19, non-exempt and hourly full-time (regular) and part-time (casual) Team Members will be paid based on their average weekly hours for the four weeks prior to closure.
• Salaried Team Members will continue to be paid at their current rate.