DisneyFan32
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SAY WHHHAATTTTTTT!!!
I'm scared about Christmas and New Year's now....I hope it's not gonna happen when expecting a bigger increase in January or not.
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I'm scared about Christmas and New Year's now....I hope it's not gonna happen when expecting a bigger increase in January or not.
Also, let your arm hang free by your side(not bent at the elbow resting on anything), and shake it a couple of times to relax it before the injection. I haven't felt a shot since I started doing this. Then start moving it all around for a few minutes - you might look silly, but it seems to reduce the pain.
networkpro
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From observation this week, if you go to WDW unvaccinated, you face substantial exposure risk. The crowds are here, lots of them refuse to mask unless a cast member stands over them, and you will be shoulder to shoulder with everyone.
Heppenheimer
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The old days and old ways aren't coming back. But things don't have to be as bad as they are right now. We've collectively chosen our present reality.
Although there's a lot of life lessons that will probably come out of this pandemic, I hope at least one will be a push for better media and STEM literacy for the general population.
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correcaminos
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Yes! I actually dislike when the chairs have armrests making this harder to do! My CVS seems to have that which annoys me at times. Lots of good tricks for shots. Taking my kid for his 2nd dose of HPV today. Doesn't help for covid, but thigh shots are easiest to tolerate too.
I sometimes feel the liquid of the flu shot going in. I, for now as a vaccinated but legit never had chicken pox (I'm a freak of nature on that), am suggested not to do shingles shot so I may never get to that one. Might get another dose of chicken pox though is a thought. I hate when I can feel the liquid. Just unnerving.
Bob Harlem
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Hospitalization remains flat in Florida again this week, holding around 2.38% (up slightly from 2.32% last friday), it's still in a range lower than its been at any time since April 2020. The University of Florida Model I've been watching closely https://epi.ufl.edu/covid-19-resour...year-projections-for-covid-19-in-florida.html projected a slight uptick in mid December, which we are seeing now. Positivity has gone up in Orange county) , however it will likely not go up anywhere close to the earlier wave before it goes back down -- in fact today orange county showed the 14 day average starting to drop again . Areas of the country that didn't see big delta waves earlier in the year will probably see record cases and hospitalization.
Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont are already seeing record case and hospitalization right now and still increasing. New York is about to catch up as a few others around.
Omicron news is that it continues to have trending optimistic, but still cautious reports of it being mild with the primary symptoms being Body aches and pains, headaches, tiredness that lasts a day or two, sometimes a a slight sore throat. Runny nose/coughing not so much. The biggest difference from the other variants is no oxygen loss and no loss of taste/smell, and lack of the symptoms that tend to cause the "long covid". Many people don't even know they have it. Vaccinated or unvaccinated seem to have the same symptoms, although unvaccinated seems to have a bit worse a case of it, but there still is a great deal of effectiveness with the vaccine symptoms wise (transmission wise not so much with omicron). This has been reported almost universally. So it's relatively good news if this becomes dominant, which won't be quickly enough for some places in the northeast. Delta is still tearing through, all the recent covid deaths in South Africa have been Delta, no deaths reported from Omicron as of yesterday. Since Norway had an outbreak, I'm also keeping up with that here. The wastewater samples from near Johannesburg and Tshwane indicate cases may be really 5x higher than the reported number, probably aligning with the asymptomatic cases.
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Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont are already seeing record case and hospitalization right now and still increasing. New York is about to catch up as a few others around.
Omicron news is that it continues to have trending optimistic, but still cautious reports of it being mild with the primary symptoms being Body aches and pains, headaches, tiredness that lasts a day or two, sometimes a a slight sore throat. Runny nose/coughing not so much. The biggest difference from the other variants is no oxygen loss and no loss of taste/smell, and lack of the symptoms that tend to cause the "long covid". Many people don't even know they have it. Vaccinated or unvaccinated seem to have the same symptoms, although unvaccinated seems to have a bit worse a case of it, but there still is a great deal of effectiveness with the vaccine symptoms wise (transmission wise not so much with omicron). This has been reported almost universally. So it's relatively good news if this becomes dominant, which won't be quickly enough for some places in the northeast. Delta is still tearing through, all the recent covid deaths in South Africa have been Delta, no deaths reported from Omicron as of yesterday. Since Norway had an outbreak, I'm also keeping up with that here. The wastewater samples from near Johannesburg and Tshwane indicate cases may be really 5x higher than the reported number, probably aligning with the asymptomatic cases.
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The Coronavirus Attacks Fat Tissue, Scientists Find (Published 2021)
The research may help explain why people who are overweight and obese have been at higher risk of severe illness and death from Covid.
The obesity pandemic has made COVID much more deadly - The Boston Globe
Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian of Tufts University says 64 percent of all the hospitalizations from COVID-19 could have been prevented, if we had a metabolically healthy population.
www.bostonglobe.com
Shhhh, nothing to see here.
Questioning the Mods is not a healthy option but with you being a new member you may not be aware.
In some parts of the country.
After 9/11, the new normal was a heightened sense of security in ALL parts of the country. For the ones who don't support masks, then when they make their bed, they better be prepared to sleep in it.
Heppenheimer
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We know this. Nothing surprising. But it took us decades to get this unhealthy. What massive structural changes do you recommend that would suddenly reverse the metabolic trends that have been ongoing in the western world (and now much of the developing world) for several decades?The Coronavirus Attacks Fat Tissue, Scientists Find (Published 2021)
The research may help explain why people who are overweight and obese have been at higher risk of severe illness and death from Covid.www.nytimes.com
The obesity pandemic has made COVID much more deadly - The Boston Globe
Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian of Tufts University says 64 percent of all the hospitalizations from COVID-19 could have been prevented, if we had a metabolically healthy population.
Shhhh, nothing to see here.
And? Completely different circumstances.
I do feel like some parts of the country will indeed never go back to normal. Meanwhile some parts have been living pretty close to normal for a while now.
I do hope we can take a nonpolitical look at the root causes and try to prevent any further funding of research that might have unleashed this travesty upon the world.
Piebald
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I want to preface this with the fact that I like to think I'm cognizant of how dangerous this virus is. I know people who have died (as young as 34) as a result of covid. I am vaccinated and have considered getting the booster soon.
I'm just not sure at what point we just ...stop caring, however. I know that sounds insensitive but I've long been a proponent of mitigating your own risk. And while I understand this involves others and not just yourself, I'm having a difficult time grappling with this concept after almost 2 years. I just returned from Spain and everyone, EVERYONE wore masks. Compliance was 100% and even outside (could have been the cold) I'd say 60-70% still wore masks. Kudos to them, I have no complaints but in a country of over 80% vaccinated I'm not sure at what point they just say "ok we are in the clear". And that concept is even more bizarre to think about in the US, where we just reached 60% vaccinated and overwhelmingly people just dont care (whether its masking or event attendance or whatever)
I'm not entirely sure what my point is. I see the merit of multiple perspectives here (well, not the vehemently wacko anti vaxxers or people who think this is fake) and it's just a very complex issue. I'm OK with wearing a mask to the doctors office, for example. I've always hated going to yearly check ups and walking into the waiting room with people coughing and just being all sickly. Have to go out but you feel kind of under the weather? By all means wear a mask. But I know people now who...I'm not sure theyll ever take off a mask. Its concerning. They are getting panic attacks in crowds. This whole thing has messed people up so badly.
I'm just not sure at what point we just ...stop caring, however. I know that sounds insensitive but I've long been a proponent of mitigating your own risk. And while I understand this involves others and not just yourself, I'm having a difficult time grappling with this concept after almost 2 years. I just returned from Spain and everyone, EVERYONE wore masks. Compliance was 100% and even outside (could have been the cold) I'd say 60-70% still wore masks. Kudos to them, I have no complaints but in a country of over 80% vaccinated I'm not sure at what point they just say "ok we are in the clear". And that concept is even more bizarre to think about in the US, where we just reached 60% vaccinated and overwhelmingly people just dont care (whether its masking or event attendance or whatever)
I'm not entirely sure what my point is. I see the merit of multiple perspectives here (well, not the vehemently wacko anti vaxxers or people who think this is fake) and it's just a very complex issue. I'm OK with wearing a mask to the doctors office, for example. I've always hated going to yearly check ups and walking into the waiting room with people coughing and just being all sickly. Have to go out but you feel kind of under the weather? By all means wear a mask. But I know people now who...I'm not sure theyll ever take off a mask. Its concerning. They are getting panic attacks in crowds. This whole thing has messed people up so badly.
Polkadotdress
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That CNN article also has an accompanying video, which features an unvaccinated man in the hospital on his 2nd bout of Covid, stating "I had it once and it was bad, but this time its VERY BAD." He regrets not getting vaxx'd. And there's a hospitalized woman featured as well, shaking her head and saying "Nope, I don't think I will get the vax."
Still stunning when I see/hear things like this.
Texas84
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We've been back to normal for well over a year. No masks, low vax rate. What are we doing different? Nothing.
Living in a state where there's enough room to socially distance without realizing it?
Or misrepresenting actual numbers by those in power, like what's now being alleged in Florida.
LittleBuford
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Get your boosters, people.
Omicron: Three vaccine doses key for protection against variant
UK scientists say two doses of a Covid vaccine are not enough to stop you catching the Omicron variant.
www.bbc.co.uk
That is wishful thinking in other items for all who try to attempt to add that in. Fortunately the Mods are quick to delete those posts .
Incomudro
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Get your boosters, people.
Omicron: Three vaccine doses key for protection against variant
UK scientists say two doses of a Covid vaccine are not enough to stop you catching the Omicron variant.www.bbc.co.uk
I got mine.
That's why I'm not wearing a mask unless forced to, and I don't fear young people.
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