Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Tony the Tigger]

You're right. Just lock them all up. Maybe seal them into their homes like China did? Maybe some nice concentration camps somewhere?

No, just make them take the vaccine.

 

[drizgirl]

No, just make them take the vaccine.

How's that going so far?

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I have asthma and my spouse is diabetic.

Same.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

How's that going so far?

Pathetically - because of the people, not the government.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

we all make mistakes…none of us knew…

maturity is owning it. We move on.

Haiku fail.

 

[Andrew C]

Although as usual, this poster is taking things out of context, there is a race right now amongst drug companies to develop a nasal vaccine. The weak poing in the armor of the current vaccines is that they primarily stimulate production of IgG antibodies. These are great for blood-born infections, and they can readily diffuse out of the thin-walled blood vessels of the airways. However, they penetrate the walls of the mucous membranes much less efficiently. This is why the current vaccines protect very well against severe disease. The antibodies can easily neutralize what viral particles make it into the lungs, but on the flip side, the virus can get a head start with replication in the nasal passages before the various branches of the immune system can really clamp down. A nasal vaccine that strongly stimulates the production of IgA antibodies, which can readily line the mucous membranes like a field of anti-COVID barbed wire, would provide a tremendous complement to the existing vaccines.

Unfortunately, we're at least a year away from seeing such a product going before the FDA, and unlike our existing vaccines, these are not receiving Operation Warp Speed funding.

Operation slow mo.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You don't see something wrong with pushing to medicate people for profit only?

I don’t think there’s a solid basis for say it’s for “profit only”

not placebo…and no indication it will not provide some benefits.

profits are part of the deal…unfortunately

 

[Bob Harlem]

Florida Hospitalization numbers continue to drop, again a new all time low for Covid ICU & Covid bed use (1359) since HHS Started tracking covid patients in April 2020. It's rising in the northeast, however, and especially Minnesota where positivity is over 15% now. (60 days ago it had the lowest of the 50 states, but also never got the summer delta wave) https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/hospital-utilization

 

[DisneyCane]

Florida Hospitalization numbers continue to drop, again a new all time low for Covid ICU & Covid bed use (1359) since HHS Started tracking covid patients in April 2020. It's rising in the northeast, however, and especially Minnesota where positivity is over 15% now. (60 days ago it had the lowest of the 50 states) https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/hospital-utilization
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Good news for FL. Not so great for the northeast. You would think the vaccination rate in the northeast will at least keep the hospitalizations suppressed.

 

[Communicora]

Good news for FL. Not so great for the northeast. You would think the vaccination rate in the northeast will at least keep the hospitalizations suppressed.

It doesn't take very many unvaccinated people to get sick and overwhelm the hospitals.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Florida Hospitalization numbers continue to drop, again a new all time low for Covid ICU & Covid bed use (1359) since HHS Started tracking covid patients in April 2020. It's rising in the northeast, however, and especially Minnesota where positivity is over 15% now. (60 days ago it had the lowest of the 50 states, but also never got the summer delta wave) https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/hospital-utilization
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Predictable at this point.

Good news for FL. Not so great for the northeast. You would think the vaccination rate in the northeast will at least keep the hospitalizations suppressed.

Eventually this will sink in …even for you…

it’s a “wave”…no sense expecting the ocean to stop.

hopefully a small wave. But bookmark this…so we don’t have to play some silly game in two months where Florida is knocked off the pedestal (from Walmart) that we place it upon .

 

[JoeCamel]

This may be the spike that killed covid 19

Pfizer Allows Others To Make Its Covid Pill, 53% Of The World To Benefit

US pharmaceutical giant Pfizer on Tuesday announced a deal to make its oral antiviral Covid-19 medication available more cheaply in poorer countries, if it passes trials and regulatory approval.

www.ndtv.com

 

[drizgirl]

I don’t think there’s a solid basis for say it’s for “profit only”

not placebo…and no indication it will not provide some benefits.

profits are part of the deal…unfortunately

Is that how medicine works now?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This may be the spike that killed covid 19

Pfizer Allows Others To Make Its Covid Pill, 53% Of The World To Benefit

US pharmaceutical giant Pfizer on Tuesday announced a deal to make its oral antiviral Covid-19 medication available more cheaply in poorer countries, if it passes trials and regulatory approval.

www.ndtv.com

Infection and treatment is not a better alternative to vaccination/prevention.

this keeps popping up: “take a pill” is our go to…but not advisable. Better to continue to try and spread the shield than “oh…I got it…can you give me a pill?”

it continues to be a difficult thing to navigate in real time

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Is that how medicine works now?

Which part?

unknown effectiveness? That’s been forever

for profit? Since johnson called his cousin and decided to open a store to sell mystery powders to “cure the gout”

 

[drizgirl]

Which part?

unknown effectiveness? That’s been forever

for profit? Since johnson called his cousin and decided to open a store to sell mystery powders to “cure the gout”

The part where we want everyone to take it (the booster) when the studies don't support that.

 

[Angel Ariel]

As I said, I did it and I would do it again. But I just think it's going to be hard to get large numbers of people on board with it. If it becomes something that's needed regularly (like the flu shot) compliance will tank. This was absolutely nothing like the flu shot in terms of life interruption.

I would like to think we could all have some perspective on that. The last year was absolute hell. I truly don’t think I can go through what our family had to again. If taking a booster annually, or even every 6-8 months is necessary to stop that from happening again, I will gladly do so.

(and yes, each of the shots - Pfizer for me - has knocked me out, so I get that it’s not like the flu shot).

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The part where we want everyone to take it when the studies don't support that.

Did you miss the part where the world was paralyzed for going on 2 years?

every day ends in “y”…but they’re all not the same.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I would like to think we could all have some perspective on that. The last year was absolute hell. I truly don’t think I can go through what our family had to again. If taking a booster annually, or even every 6-8 months is necessary to stop that from happening again, I will gladly do so.

Yeah…I think this might be losing its pull as people resume standard selfish bickering…just a bit

 

[DisneyCane]

Predictable at this point.

Eventually this will sink in …even for you…

it’s a “wave”…no sense expecting the ocean to stop.

hopefully a small wave. But bookmark this…so we don’t have to play some silly game in two months where Florida is knocked off the pedestal (from Walmart) that we place it upon .

Perhaps it will also sink in for you that these waves are just natural cycles. I didn't put FL on any pedestal, I've been pointing out that the wave (tidal wave at that) ended because that's how viral outbreaks work. I fully anticipate an "aftershock" to the wave over the next couple of months as people from the northeast where spread is higher travel down to FL and bring more infections with them.

COVID isn't going to zero and likely never will. There will be waves of it everywhere for the foreseeable future for sure and likely the rest of our lives.

So lets stop treating it like Armageddon, dispense with the mitigation (other than encouraging vaccination) and live with it.