Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Angel Ariel]

I just watched a TN state senator argue for a bill to ignore the federal OHSA mandate when it comes down. They made it law no business can mandate vaccines because "it is a shot not a vaccine. It has to work 100% to be a vaccine and this shot does not".
They proceeded to pass the bill and a host of other pro covid bills....
I don't know how you can kill the disease with leaders like this

so they do know then that that would apply to MMR, chicken pox, pertussis, etc……right? Because no vaccine is 100%

 

[JoeCamel]

so they do know then that that would apply to MMR, chicken pox, pertussis, etc……right? Because no vaccine is 100%

They know, they don't care about truth. They also get a larger percentage of the state budget from the feds than any other state. 36% but too busy telling business what to do to figure out how to fund the state. They held a special session to pass this garbage. Some of the others are removing local power from health departments, allowing doctors to spout covid myths without fear of repercussions, allowing school board member to be fined $10000 for mask mandates and school board elections to be partisan.
Its not a progressive state y'all

OK, I'm done with this, back to wondering when the choo choo will run again.

 

[Angel Ariel]

They know, they don't care about truth. They also get a larger percentage of the state budget from the feds than any other state. 36% but too busy telling business what to do to figure out how to fund the state. They held a special session to pass this garbage. Some of the others are removing local power from health departments, allowing doctors to spout covid myths without fear of repercussions, allowing school board member to be fined $10000 for mask mandates and school board elections to be partisan.
Its not a progressive state y'all

OK, I'm done with this, back to wondering when the choo choo will run again.

I’m so sorry

 

[DisneyCane]

Here is the weekly report from the Florida DOH. The number of new deaths reported from the report last week to this report is 867.

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Here's the data on Orange County from the weekly report -

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Getting very close to pre-Delta bottom of 10,512 resident cases for WE 6/11. Weekly new case positivity is the lowest it has ever been.

 

[drizgirl]

If this is true then why is Pfizer not making any changes to vaccine or CDC asking for changes?

Too much of last year's model left?

 

[Heppenheimer]

I just watched a TN state senator argue for a bill to ignore the federal OHSA mandate when it comes down. They made it law no business can mandate vaccines because "it is a shot not a vaccine. It has to work 100% to be a vaccine and this shot does not".
They proceeded to pass the bill and a host of other pro covid bills....
I don't know how you can kill the disease with leaders like this

Nullification crisis of 2021?

Anyone remember this history lesson from the original Hall of Presidents? Skip to the 5:26 mark:

 

[JoeCamel]

Nullification crisis of 2021?

Anyone remember this history lesson from the original Hall of Presidents? Skip to the 5:26 mark:

Exactly. The word was used in session
These people have no idea how to fund the government yet they want to cut off the hand feeding it. I guess it's the lead in the water or maybe just radon making everyone stupid.

 

[ABQ]

Too much of last year's model left?

I hope that's the case as the whatever the heck it's called variant, see Kentucky, is finding ways to avoid the alpha variant based current mrna vaxes. Which stinks for a skeptical fool like me who just got their Moderna booster.

 

[Lilofan]

Exactly. The word was used in session
These people have no idea how to fund the government yet they want to cut off the hand feeding it. I guess it's the lead in the water or maybe just radon making everyone stupid.

When a number of states legalized that green bush, strange things have happened.

 

[JoeCamel]

When a number of states legalized that green bush, strange things have happened.

Well VA did but TN I think will get a blowtorch to it before that happens here

 

[Bullseye1967]

When a number of states legalized that green bush, strange things have happened.

The devil's lettuce?

 

[mikejs78]

There is so much data out there that suggests the exact opposite of this stark outlier.

That's.... not really true.

 

[mikejs78]

I am curious why the study stopped at 6 months. If we're serious about saying natural immunity isn't sufficient, we should be changing the series of both mRNA vaccines to 3 doses.

I think that is where this will all shake out. A 3-series vaccine isn't unheard of....

 

[Tom P.]

Because both Pfizer and Moderna are excellent. One is just a bit more excellent. It’s like Fastpass and Fastpass+. One has a little bit more Magic.

Given the amount of argument that has gone on here about whether or not FastPass+ is better than FastPass or not, I'd say this is a good analogy.

 

[DisneyCane]

About the need for boosters, this is a direct quote from the FDA Briefing Document - EUA amendment request for a booster dose of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine:

3. Rationale For COVID-19 Vaccine Booster Doses

Concerns have been raised that declining neutralizing antibody titers or reduced effectiveness against symptomatic disease may herald significant declines in effectiveness against severe disease. The recent emergence of the highly transmissible Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2 resulted in a new wave of COVID-19 cases in many parts of the world and has led to considerations for administration of booster doses to individuals who received primary series of vaccines in an effort to enhance immunity, and thus sustain protection from COVID-19.

The expected benefit of booster vaccination will depend on the impact that booster vaccination has in reducing disease relative to the primary series. If the primary series of Moderna COVID19 Vaccine is still effective in preventing important COVID-19-related outcomes, then the benefit of booster vaccination is likely to be more limited than if effectiveness following the primary series has waned substantially. Factors supporting authorization of a booster dose should consider the effectiveness of primary vaccination with Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine over time and against circulating variants, the effectiveness (and its duration) of booster vaccination in preventing important COVID-19-related outcomes (including death, hospitalization, and infection with SARS-CoV-2 followed by long COVID-19) in individuals who have already received a 13 primary vaccination series, the dynamics of the pandemic in the United States, and the risks of booster vaccination in the general population or in certain subpopulations.

Some real world effectiveness studies have suggested declining efficacy of Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine over time against symptomatic infection or against the Delta variant, while others have not. However, overall, data indicate that currently US-licensed or authorized COVID-19 vaccines still afford protection against severe COVID-19 disease and death in the United States. There are many potentially relevant studies, but FDA has not independently reviewed or verified the underlying data or their conclusions.

Can they manage to use any more qualifiers like "may" and "some" and "concerns have been raised." They clearly illustrate the increase in Geometric Mean Titers two weeks after the booster dose. What they don't do is illustrate whether or not the pre-booster level or other pre-booster immune response is sufficient.

Basically, it appears the FDA approved a booster when the briefing document states that it is unknown if it is needed or not.

 

[ToTBellHop]

About the need for boosters, this is a direct quote from the FDA Briefing Document - EUA amendment request for a booster dose of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine:



Can they manage to use any more qualifiers like "may" and "some" and "concerns have been raised." They clearly illustrate the increase in Geometric Mean Titers two weeks after the booster dose. What they don't do is illustrate whether or not the pre-booster level or other pre-booster immune response is sufficient.

Basically, it appears the FDA approved a booster when the briefing document states that it is unknown if it is needed or not.

Because the government is scared schnitzel-less that this will never end and a 3rd dose is unlikely to be dangerous. “Couldn’t hurt!”

 

[mikejs78]

About the need for boosters, this is a direct quote from the FDA Briefing Document - EUA amendment request for a booster dose of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine:



Can they manage to use any more qualifiers like "may" and "some" and "concerns have been raised." They clearly illustrate the increase in Geometric Mean Titers two weeks after the booster dose. What they don't do is illustrate whether or not the pre-booster level or other pre-booster immune response is sufficient.

Basically, it appears the FDA approved a booster when the briefing document states that it is unknown if it is needed or not.

It is in the short term.

Look, most briefing documents read this way.

 

[Giss Neric]

I've had two doses already. Boosters should be for high risks individuals only.

 

[JoeCamel]

Tremendous!

Actually, Sandworm Attacks Have Only a One Percent Death Rate

Those leftist Atreides weirdos are politicizing sandworm attacks on Dune to control us and keep us in lockdown forever! Okay, clearly the sandworms...

www.mcsweeneys.net

 

[drizgirl]

I've had two doses already. Boosters should be for high risks individuals only.

So far it pretty much is, right? They haven't recommended MRNA boosters for everyone yet. Just older and high risk.

J&J is recommended for everyone, and rightly so.