Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Andrew C]

In other news, college football games seemed to have not turned into super spreads events. Three cheers for outdoor get togethers!!!

 

[MisterPenguin]

This is not meant to be political. Just wanted to call out the passing of Colin Powell due to Covid complications. He was 84.

And fully vaccinated.

 

[Touchdown]

And fully vaccinated.

There’s a reason boosters are going to be recommended for all vaccines for people over 65, he’s sadly not alone.

 

[JoeCamel]

And fully vaccinated.

There’s a reason boosters are going to be recommended for all vaccines for people over 65, he’s sadly not alone.

Before the fire gets started know he had cancer as well so his immune system was not working much

 

[Andrew C]

Before the fire gets started know he had cancer as well so his immune system was not working much

CDC states 7,178 vaccinated people have died of Covid. Out of the 187 million plus vaccinated. Almost 25k have been hospitalized but did not die. Just to put things in perspective.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Before the fire gets started know he had cancer as well so his immune system was not working much

That would be a key detail that I'm sure will get lost in the fray.

EDIT: Looks like he had multiple myeloma (sort of cancer, but not exactly). Vaccinated or not, I would be surprised if anyone who has an advanced case of this unfortunate condition could survive the COVID-19 pandemic. Most people with the disease will eventually succumb to an infection of some sorts or another.

 

[DisneyCane]

Funny I could have said the same thing about your post as I don’t know why a description of how the immune system works led to a discussion on how Covid isn’t really that bad.

As for why your favorite county is still suffering that’s easy. Due to Delta we need to have 95% of the total population immune (again, that means have memory b/T cells to Covid which you can achieve by vaccinating or surviving a severe enough disease if it) to stop the spread. I don’t think we have reached that level anywhere in the country yet, but the closest to that level is probably California due to both there very high vaccination rate (for this country) and having suffered a few very severe waves. The latter fact is why I didn’t say any New England States, they really haven’t had much infections compared to the rest of the country.

As I’ve pointed out multiple times to you the reason why Miami Dade lags the rest of the state is because:

1. We are on the downward part of a wave
2. They insituted other mitigation measures (masks, social distancing) which decreased their peak infections, decreased their slope, and elongated their wave

Further, I’ll add that because, especially in peaks we cannot capture everyone infected (we run out of tests) it will appear that Miami Dade still suffered the same infection rate as other counties in the state, I don’t believe that to be true as I’m sure the testing rate in that county exceeds other counties, but I don’t have the time to dig in the weeds and find out.

Also, I’ll point out urban environments are far more favorable to Covid infections due to population density so the fact that some rural county in the panhandle has the same Covid rates per population as the states most urban county is yet again a sign that Miami Dade did better then that other county.

In short stop constantly bringing up Miami Dades rates as evidence other litigations are useless, please.

Apparently you misread my post because I didn't say anything about COVID not being that bad. I said that the doomsday scenarios people were envisioning where every person on earth eventually gets it and then x% die would never have happened due to our immune systems and other defenses.

Broward County does at least as much voluntary mitigation as Miami-Dade, is right next door, has a lower vaccination rate and lower spread currently.

 

[Ayla]

Is one truely still an ophthalmologist if you don’t practice? Dr. Gupta still operates.

Since he isn't legitimately licensed, I'd say no.

 

[Ayla]

And fully vaccinated.

And suffering from Parkinson's and myeloma, which made him severely immunocompromised.

 

[Andrew C]

Since he isn't legitimately licensed, I'd say no.

Who. Paul? He’s still licensed as of august.

 

[Ayla]

Who. Paul? He’s still licensed as of august.

Not by any legitimate licensing agency.

 

[FanforDisney]

This is not meant to be political. Just wanted to call out the passing of Colin Powell due to Covid complications. He was 84.

and fully vaccinated

 

[Andrew C]

Not by any legitimate licensing agency.

Is the the ABO NBO thing you’re referencing? Oh geez.

 

[JoeCamel]

And suffering from Parkinson's and myeloma, which made him severely immunocompromised.

and fully vaccinated

 

[Chi84]

and fully vaccinated

He had multiple myeloma, a cancer of the plasma cells that suppresses the body's immune response. It's likely the vaccine may not have helped him much in his immunocompromised state.

 

[DisneyCane]

Since he isn't legitimately licensed, I'd say no.

Except he is, so you should change your answer. Look it up on the Kentucky physician license search website. Currently valid through 2/28/2022.

 

[correcaminos]

He had multiple myeloma, a cancer of the plasma cells that suppresses the body's immune response. It's likely the vaccine may not have helped him much in his immunocompromised state.

This is why we are uber careful with my MIL right now. She is not allowed to travel at this time. We are hoping we can see her next year. I lost a friend to multiple myeloma earlier this year. Before covid she was hospitalized about 1x a month on average. Any minor illness or infection sent her in.

 

[DisneyCane]

CDC states 7,178 vaccinated people have died of Covid. Out of the 187 million plus vaccinated. Almost 25k have been hospitalized but did not die. Just to put things in perspective.

I wouldn't put too much faith in those CDC numbers. First, they say they receive reports from 50 states and territories but don't list which don't report. If Guam doesn't report it probably doesn't change the stats much. If FL doesn't report it's a different story. I also believe there is a relatively long lag time until they get the report so I'd go with the assumption that the real number is somewhat higher. How much, I have no idea.

 

[Lilofan]

Before the fire gets started know he had cancer as well so his immune system was not working much

Anyone who is fully vaccinated with a compromised immune system should be wearing a mask when around others if he/she is not sure if all present in the room is not fully vaccinated.

 

[JoeCamel]

Anyone who is fully vaccinated with a compromised immune system should be wearing a mask when around others if he/she is not sure if all present in the room is not fully vaccinated.

Kinda an oxymoron to say fully vax'ed with a poor immune system. If you don't elicit the immune response are you fully vax'ed?