Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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drizgirl

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GoofGoof said:
The OSHA rule is not a vaccine mandate for all workers, it’s a requirement to test workers weekly with the option to get out of weekly testing if you are fully vaccinated. The USPS is covered under that order. For Federal employees and contractors there is a vaccine mandate. You must be vaccinated or you lose your job.
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Thank you for clarifying. So does the same apply for all schools?
 
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GoofGoof

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drizgirl said:
Thank you for clarifying. So does the same apply for all schools?
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Yes and no depending on the type of school. Public schools are not covered by OSHA but private schools are. OSHA is part of a Federal agency so while they have jurisdiction over Federal employees and private corporations they do not have jurisdiction over state or local government workers. However, a lot of states point to OSHA requirements for workplace safety as opposed to crafting their own set of rules so many will adopt similar rules. I would assume the same states resisting anything that would help slow covid will also resist this effort. In theory Biden could threaten to revoke Federal funding from any school that doesn’t mandate teachers are vaccinated similar to the hospital rule. He didn’t say that, he said he’d work with Governors to strongly encourage vaccine mandates for school teachers.
 
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drizgirl

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GoofGoof said:
Yes and no depending on the type of school. Public schools are not covered by OSHA but private schools are. OSHA is part of a Federal agency so while they have jurisdiction over Federal employees and private corporations they do not have jurisdiction over state or local government workers. However, a lot of states point to OSHA requirements for workplace safety as opposed to crafting their own set of rules so many will adopt similar rules. I would assume the same states resisting anything that would help slow covid will also resist this effort. In theory Biden could threaten to revoke Federal funding from any school that doesn’t mandate teachers are vaccinated similar to the hospital rule. He didn’t say that, he said he’d work with Governors to strongly encourage vaccine mandates for school teachers.
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We've tried strongly encouraging. So I take that as more of the same. Very disappointing.
 
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GoofGoof

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drizgirl said:
We've tried strongly encouraging. So I take that as more of the same. Very disappointing.
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I don’t disagree. The whole state’s rights thing has really been a terrible obstacle to any form of covid response and why despite having the most access to a vaccine we have faired so much worse than a lot of countries. I’m not a fan of threatening to hold back Federal funding to force State actions, but in this case I think it’s probably justified since the Governors involved are literally killing people by not taking any action. Something needs to be done.
 
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sullyinMT

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drizgirl said:
We've tried strongly encouraging. So I take that as more of the same. Very disappointing.
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One thing at a time. It is frustrating, just as it was frustrating that the CMS rule didn’t come about alongside the nursing/LTC facility rule. After getting healthcare providers mandated with the power of the purse, I wouldn’t be overly shocked to see a similar DoE ruling on teachers and staff. But for now they don’t want to be seen as using schools and their students as political pawns the way the anti-mask mandate people are.

I think the administration is naïvely hoping that states and school districts will do it on their own first. I don’t think enough will, sadly.
 
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lewisc

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GoofGoof said:
I don’t disagree. The whole state’s rights thing has really been a terrible obstacle to any form of covid response and why despite having the most access to a vaccine we have faired so much worse than a lot of countries. I’m not a fan of threatening to hold back Federal funding to force State actions, but in this case I think it’s probably justified since the Governors involved are literally killing people by not taking any action. Something needs to be done.
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The federal gov't used purse strings for age 21 drinking and 55 mph speed limit.
JMO but vaccine is more important then either of the above.
 
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GoofGoof

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lewisc said:
Don't we already know FL has no interest.
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I think that will be the case, but I’m not aware of the Biden administration actually reaching out to the Governor directly and asking him to mandate teachers being vaccinated. I think that has to happen first before they can then threaten to revoke Federal funding for not doing it.
 
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You know what's funny?
A certain person in the WH has already come out and basically admitted that this is essentially a way for them to federally mandate the vaccine. This intent is definitely going to be challenged now by the states. I’m not happy with any of the 50 states not doing these types of vaccine mandates on their own. But because they won’t do it doesn’t mean the feds all of a sudden have the authority..outside of federal workers. They even said in July that they don’t have the authority.
 
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