Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[21stamps]

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[TrainsOfDisney]

I don’t know.... we are 1 week in and the government is getting more and more controlling. Businesses should be allowed to do business. - limiting customer contact is one thing but forcing the closure of businesses is beyond scary.

 

[VJ]

No more political talk please. Please report any posts that stray into that area, and please do not respond.

 

[21stamps]

I don’t know.... we are 1 week in and the government is getting more and more controlling. Businesses should be allowed to do business. - limiting customer contact is one thing but forcing the closure of businesses is beyond scary.

The most frightening part to me, is not even what the government is doing (though please don’t mistake that for being comfortable with it).. my concern is how many people are begging for the government to have so much control... even more frightening, is how many who are asking for federal orders, and using China as a good example.

Never thought I would see that from Americans.

 

[Calmdownnow]

Businesses should be allowed to do business. - limiting customer contact is one thing but forcing the closure of businesses is beyond scary.

..But seems like it may be necessary.

 

[Brer Oswald]

The paranoia is getting to my parents. Starting to get stressed.

 

[DisneyCane]

And equally, nobody spelled out the underlying assumptions for the best case scenario, but in the meantime, a lot of people have taken the best case scenario as gospel truth: "it's just like flu", "kids aren't affected"; "only the old get severe symptoms"; "America has the best health care system in the world".

That is true. However, extreme decisions are being made on the worst case scenario, not the best case scenario.

 

[Jwink]

The most frightening part to me, is not even what the government is doing (though please don’t mistake that for being comfortable with it).. my concern is how many people are begging for the government to have so much control... even more frightening, is how many who are asking for federal orders, and using China as a good example.

Never thought I would see that from Americans.

I just saw that DeSantis is talking about isolating shelters. His idea is that if you have OR show symptoms of having COVID-19 that you’ll be kept there under isolation. In an effort to ‘not spread it to your household’.

so first of all- no I will not be separated from my breastfeeding daughter. She doesn’t take a bottle and my milk is her best defense with antibodies. Secondly- what happens to the cases of ‘symptoms’ that end up being negative?! Then you’ve been exposed to however many others that DO have it!

furthermore- if you have it and are exhibiting symptoms- your household does too

NO.

 

[21stamps]

I just saw that DeSantis is talking about isolating shelters. His idea is that if you have OR show symptoms of having COVID-19 that you’ll be kept there under isolation. In an effort to ‘not spread it to your household’.

so first of all- no I will not be separated from my breastfeeding daughter. She doesn’t take a bottle and my milk is her best defense with antibodies. Secondly- what happens to the cases of ‘symptoms’ that end up being negative?! Then you’ve been exposed to however many others that DO have it!

furthermore- if you have it and are exhibiting symptoms- your household does too

NO.

Wow. I like him, a lot... but that is a TERRIBLE idea.

 

[trainplane3]

Wow...this one snuck by me...apparently here in MA (or at least in our town), bank lobbies are now closed.

My bank sent a note like that during the week for this region... The lobbies were closed, but they were still doing drive-up. People that had safety deposit boxes, loan issues, etc basically would be handled on an appointment basis.

Trust me.. in the background the gov will be doing everything they can to push the banks to stay open... even if in a reduced sense.

Yeppers to this. I can't speak too much to this but now they're closing locations here that don't have drive throughs. I'm somewhat surprised it took a bit for banks to move operations over to this but I'm glad they are. I'm curious where it'll go from here.

 

[Lilofan]

I just saw that DeSantis is talking about isolating shelters. His idea is that if you have OR show symptoms of having COVID-19 that you’ll be kept there under isolation. In an effort to ‘not spread it to your household’.

so first of all- no I will not be separated from my breastfeeding daughter. She doesn’t take a bottle and my milk is her best defense with antibodies. Secondly- what happens to the cases of ‘symptoms’ that end up being negative?! Then you’ve been exposed to however many others that DO have it!

furthermore- if you have it and are exhibiting symptoms- your household does too

NO.

DeSantis should take a hint from WDW, dealing with a guest matter on a case by case basis.

 

[Calmdownnow]

Never thought I would see that from Americans.

Civil freedoms are incredibly important to all democracies and need to to be protected. BUT, there are very extreme times when people exercising their freedoms are so individualistic that they start to put at risk the well-being of their neighbors and government leaders have to make some difficult choices about whether to enforce responsible behavior for the greater good of everyone. China is not a democracy and didn't have this quandry to deal with, but every every elected official in the Western World is grappling with this issue today and having to make ethical decisions based on their understanding of the realities of the information they are receiving. I'm impressed so far by the ones that have stepped up to the plate and explained what they are doing and why.

 

[GoofGoof]

The most frightening part to me, is not even what the government is doing (though please don’t mistake that for being comfortable with it).. my concern is how many people are begging for the government to have so much control... even more frightening, is how many who are asking for federal orders, and using China as a good example.

Never thought I would see that from Americans.

Although not at a federal level, it’s not uncommon for the government at a local level to mandate the closing of non-essential businesses. In a snow storm it’s not uncommon for the local government to ask that only essential vehicles are on the roads. Hurricanes, wildfires, earthquakes, etc all result in some form of loss of rights In the name of public safety. I know this is much longer in term and wider in scope.

 

[JohnD]

With Governor DeSantis’s Executive Order (EO) closing gyms and inside dining at restaurants until at least May 8, it will be difficult for WDW to justify opening prior to then.

References:
Executive Order #71 expires on the date of EO #52. That EO expires 60 days from the issuance of that order. It was issued March 9. 60 days is May 8.

EO 71

https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/orders/2020/EO_20-71.pdf

EO 52

https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/orders/2020/EO_20-52.pdf

 

[21stamps]

Civil freedoms are incredibly important to all democracies and need to to be protected. BUT, there are very extreme times when people exercising their freedoms are so individualistic that they start to put at risk the well-being of their neighbors and government leaders have to make some difficult choices about whether to enforce responsible behavior for the greater good of everyone. China is not a democracy and didn't have this quandry to deal with, but every every elected official in the Western World is grappling with this issue today and having to make ethical decisions based on their understanding of the realities of the information they are receiving. I'm impressed so far by the ones that have stepped up to the plate and explained what they are doing and why.

Luckily here it has remained largely at the state level... but there are way too many Americans who are asking for federal mandates. That to me is extremely frightening, I don’t think they realize what they’re saying...but it’s concerning nonetheless.

 

[GoofGoof]

I just saw that DeSantis is talking about isolating shelters. His idea is that if you have OR show symptoms of having COVID-19 that you’ll be kept there under isolation. In an effort to ‘not spread it to your household’.

so first of all- no I will not be separated from my breastfeeding daughter. She doesn’t take a bottle and my milk is her best defense with antibodies. Secondly- what happens to the cases of ‘symptoms’ that end up being negative?! Then you’ve been exposed to however many others that DO have it!

furthermore- if you have it and are exhibiting symptoms- your household does too

NO.

That would have to be voluntary. No way they will mandate that. Even with the closure of businesses they aren’t going after individuals for enforcement. If a business opens and people show up they are only fining the business not arresting people. At least in NY and CA. Not sure about the others.

 

[21stamps]

Although not at a federal level, it’s not uncommon for the government at a local level to mandate the closing of non-essential businesses. In a snow storm it’s not uncommon for the local government to ask that only essential vehicles are on the roads. Hurricanes, wildfires, earthquakes, etc all result in some form of loss of rights In the name of public safety. I know this is much longer in term and wider in scope.

I’ve lived thru many hurricanes including the 04-05 season where it felt like never ending curfews and fuel limits... there is a huge difference between those events and this. They also didn’t force us from our homes. I lived in a mandatory evac zone, sometimes I evacuated, sometimes I didn’t.. no one came to my home to remove me. i just wouldn’t have had help if needed it... that was my decision to make.

 

[thomas998]

I figured out the perfect solution y’all! Totally solved social distancing... ready?

bring back the wagon strollers for everyone at Disney! Gramma needs a lift? Wagon stroller. Family of 6? TWO wagon strollers. Social distancing achievement- unlocked.

Problem. Solved.

Except grandma is in an urn now.

 

[Jwink]

That would have to be voluntary. No way they will mandate that. Even with the closure of businesses they aren’t going after individuals for enforcement. If a business opens and people show up they are only fining the business not arresting people. At least in NY and CA. Not sure about the others.

Per a friend (so not credible) said that she heard it would be mandated But I don’t know

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I would love to see a study of how much time kids are spending on electronics right now. If their parents are still controlling the time or have let it go.
We’re going to end up with even more out of shape, overweight, and too much screen time, kids (and adults) by the end of this.

Hopefully parents will still utilize parental controls and make their kids get at least an hour or so of exercise, and limit the junk food. I know I have extended my strict 45 minute rule.. I just don’t want it to get too crazy. You’re right though that there is so many good sources to utilize. Kids can video chat and exercise together which could be fun for them.

We've always been pretty lax with screen-time rules, but our boys are pretty good about finding ways to learn new things using either apps or the internet in general. For example, my youngest LOVES math, so he has a ton of games that are math-based, and my oldest has actually been teaching himself how to code so he can build video games, and he's learning how to use photo and video editing software. (He wants to attend the visual communications tech program at one of our two high schools - basically vocational/technical school, but not at a school only for those kinds of programs. I consider us extraordinarily lucky that 1) they offer those programs to begin with, and 2) they're available to kids with special needs).

We've cracked down tighter than usual about outdoor play - no gym class or recess means they HAVE to go outside if it's nice for AT LEAST 60 minutes.

We've also cracked down tighter than usual with junk food. We don't limit access to snacks, but they MUST eat 3 healthy meals and aren't allowed ice cream or candy two days in a row. So...candy or ice cream today means no candy or ice cream tomorrow.