Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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CLEtoWDW

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I think it is criminal that Walt Disney World is open
I think it was criminal when they shut down in March of 2020. I went in January and August this year and not a single member of our party contracted COVID. And if you really think about the numbers the VAST MAJORITY of people that attend the parks don’t contract COVID. Next time you have a thought… let it go.
 

LaughingGravy

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I mean had been growing than there was massive flight from the city. The draw of an urban environment is the massive selection of stores and restaurants and the like. When those l closed in droves there was alot less of a reason to stay. Funny thing is rent hasn't changed. Lol landlords still want all that money for spaces on empty blocks.
That's definitely the case in Manhattan from what I saw as far as far as shuttered stores. There's a fellow on YT that bikes around with history of inquiries including how long vacant and how no reduction of rent and even increases to make up for lost rent due to vacancy It's crazy.
It's like saying one is out of work for a year, so next employer should pay to make up for it.
We had a place here that tried it when they opened and the servers ended up hating it. As was previously stated (and I'm sure this depends on the cost of dining at the establishment) the servers hated it because they ended up making less money at the end of the day.
You wanna have the best people and the best service? Pay 15 plus tips.
 

LaughingGravy

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I just learned my brother and sister-in-law are currently on a trip to Miami Beach... with their too-young-to-be-vaccinated kids. Not happy about this at all.
Crazy when you know people (especially relatives you've known your or their entire lives) who you thought knew better somehow seem to have no knowledge about how viruses work (you thought they learned that like you did ages ago), or have arguments that have no basis in clearly long established reality because someone suggested and they have adopted a "question" that "nobody seems to have answered" because the question is just too ridiculous for a response.
I.e jokingly..."Haven't you wondered why nobody has said these vaccines don't contain bleach?"

Drives me nuts.
 

FeelsSoGoodToBeBad

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You wanna have the best people and the best service? Pay 15 plus tips.
I don't disagree, and some high-end restaurants do that. MOST dining establishments don't cater to clientele that are willing to pay for a meal priced to cover the cost of that, though. Right or wrong, that is the reality, especially in smaller towns.
 

Lilofan

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I think it was criminal when they shut down in March of 2020. I went in January and August this year and not a single member of our party contracted COVID. And if you really think about the numbers the VAST MAJORITY of people that attend the parks don’t contract COVID. Next time you have a thought… let it go.
You must have missed that article a few weeks ago shared by a member that 90 out of 205 Reedy Creek firefighters that service WDW are out of work because of covid including quarantine ones that were exposed. I think your opinion of calling it criminal is a huge stretch. These hardworking cast must have working double duty when the monorail broke down 3 times in 1 week recently with guests inside according to the Monorail Orange posts in the WDW forums.
 

LaughingGravy

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Me: You wanna have the best people and the best service? Pay 15 plus tips.
I don't disagree, and some high-end restaurants do that. MOST dining establishments don't cater to clientele that are willing to pay for a meal priced to cover the cost of that, though. Right or wrong, that is the reality, especially in smaller towns.
I think if there were a way to grade restaurants based on pay/benefits, people would favor patronizing those establishments that pay a living wage, or as close to a living wage as possible.
 

Kevin_W

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Yeah right. DW already made a hobby lobby trip. Fall decor is out.
I'm sure - I saw Christmas stuff in a Costco a couple weeks ago! But as much as I enjoy fall (and Christmas), I will let the seasons occur at their actual times of year. If I needed a Moderna booster shot today, I will make sure to get mine lemonade-flavored. :)
 

Angel Ariel

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They can't even staff hospitals around the country, to the point they're offering up to 40k sign-on bonuses for positions that bay under 60k a year. I'm not talking about protecting those still employed, I'm talking about being able to find new employees with a mandate in place. Friday night, I will be fully vaccinated but I also know that we are struggling to even be half staffed as we are. And that's considering I work for a Fortune 500 medical company that can't be named but is included in that big federal opioid lawsuit. I can only imagine how other places are faring.
Staffing shortages in medicine (esp. nursing) and education were significant long before Covid hit. Covid isn’t helping, as medical and educational staff get overwhelmed, they are leaving the profession more and more quickly - but the shortage of people to replace them isn’t a new issue.
 

Angel Ariel

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Honestly, we've known about the impact of delta long enough for schools to have developed an online program. It took 2 weeks for the original shut down to develop one, we had 1.5 months before school started this summer. I am bothered when I read some articles saying schools are scrambling to get online programs going again.
Our district is so woefully unprepared in every way I can only laugh, or else I’ll cry. And they consider themselves a nationwide leader. SMH.
 
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