Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Virtual Toad]

To Parker (and everyone) tonight. Take heart. Take a breath. You’re not alone. We’re all stressed. Our reasons and viewpoints and how we’ve chosen to deal with this crisis may differ, some admittedly more than others, but we’re all in the soup together. So know it’s okay. It’s okay to be angry, okay to be stressed out, disappointed and even disillusioned, it’s okay because you’re not the only one feeling the way you do.

Given the situation, the fact so many of us are so concerned, worried, stressed out and frankly at our wits’ end is a good thing. Change starts with awareness and we’re stressed because we’re aware. We move on and move forward together. If my kids can face their first full day in a classroom in a year and a half with the courage and dedication I know they’re capable of, and they will, we can all get through this.

So muster a smile and keep the faith.

There really are better days ahead.

 

[LittleBuford]

Based on the post above this apparently the CDC disagrees If you are fully vaccinated.

Note that this is among the advice for fully vaccinated individuals:

• If you travel, you should still take steps to protect yourself and others.

Follow the second link, and you’ll see that the recommendations are to avoid crowds and maintain physical distance from those you don’t know. These are impossible guidelines to follow in WDW.

 

[DonniePeverley]

Women on flight refused to wear mask - despite it being policy when she bought ticket.

For no reason at all, despite pleas to wear the one provided in seat pocket, she refused. Then refused to get out of seat. Had to call on board police to take her off. She get's up and leaves.

She was smartly dressed, not drunk, yet she couldn't do this simple request for a 2 hour flight, and was happy to be escorted of the plane.

What type of nonsense is this and how have people got so much time to waste like this? There are all sorts of inconveniences we have to endure even just at an airport. No doubt she was happy to haul her body through an x-ray machine, phyiscal searches, long queues, no liquids, but no to a mask.

The place has gone mad.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I get being frustrated and all. The uber negativity is not good either. People need realism and balance. I wasn't nitpicking though. Just pointing out that vaccinated travel is like having a death wish is too much. Might as well just stay home entirely because nothing will ever be safe.

I'm over extremists. Especially after tonight. I just want to say **** it all after getting such hatred in person and yet online equating travel to auto death. I mask and all that indoors even though I hate it. Following guidelines is hardly nitpicking.

Fair…

don’t mistake my tepid defense for joining a cult on this one

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Just pointing out that vaccinated travel is like having a death wish is too much. Might as well just stay home entirely because nothing will ever be safe.

But you have to agree there are different levels of vaccinated travel. Disney World with current crowds and Florida’s current situation is quite different than taking a hike in Vermont.

My travel for work situation is pretty luxurious and I’m still nervous about it!

 

[LittleBuford]

But you have to agree there are different levels of vaccinated travel. Disney World with current crowds and Florida’s current situation is quite different than taking a hike in Vermont.

My travel for work situation is pretty luxurious and I’m still nervous about it!

There are also many, many options besides the theme parks of Florida. No-one is saying people should stay locked up in their homes.

I hope your work travels go well!

 

[correcaminos]

Fair…

don’t mistake my tepid defense for joining a cult on this one

I didn't actually. I took it as a legit discussion point.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I didn't actually. I took it as a legit discussion point.

I knew that…I was just throwing it out there

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

There are also many, many options besides the theme parks of Florida. No-one is saying people should stay locked up in their homes.

I hope your work travels go well!

Yes exactly. Staying away from crowds does not = locking up in a basement!

Thanks - it’s going well so far!

 

[correcaminos]

But you have to agree there are different levels of vaccinated travel. Disney World with current crowds and Florida’s current situation is quite different than taking a hike in Vermont.

My travel for work situation is pretty luxurious and I’m still nervous about it!

We all have our level of comfort. Right now I'm shot 3 in and both in my house otherwise are well within 6 months so we are looking and watching to see if our Epcot day trip will be off or on. After being there in June I know how not busy Epcot is. We'd mask indoors and not spend forever in the parks. Likely won't be too crazy since Sept is not as busy. If FL numbers keep going up or even don't start to drop, we'll cancel our flights and stay home (we are not even spending the night to minimize time there). Flying doesn't worry me at all. 3 of us taking a row and with the air filters and masks we're safe enough. It's what we are comfortable with. Given our vaccine status and me not really wanting to hide away for trial purposes, we're okay there. Not all are. We need to recognize that if people are mindfully making choices with the best info possible and are fully vaccinated with little or no risks as it were, that maybe they are not trying to have a death wish.

If you are not comfortable then that's something I respect. However if you have someone like us, young & fit fully vaccinated masking up indoors (except ice cream cone pick up lol) all while eating meals outside only or in trusted homes, even if it bothers you, try to respect that we are still following guidance. Not all people and situations and comfort levels are equal. Not all people are careless though.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

But you have to agree there are different levels of vaccinated travel. Disney World with current crowds and Florida’s current situation is quite different than taking a hike in Vermont.

My travel for work situation is pretty luxurious and I’m still nervous about it!

I was just doing this on the weekend…weird

 

[correcaminos]

Note that this is among the advice for fully vaccinated individuals:

• If you travel, you should still take steps to protect yourself and others.

Follow the second link, and you’ll see that the recommendations are to avoid crowds and maintain physical distance from those you don’t know. These are impossible guidelines to follow in WDW.

Impossible now maybe... we were not crowded at all in June when we went. Epcot and AK were great for distancing. Even with social distancing removed, people were never on top of us. I deal with GAD and people in my space (behind me particularly) is a trigger at times so I'm very aware of crowds and never try to put myself in them (like nighttime fireworks in parks)

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Impossible now maybe... we were not crowded at all in June when we went. Epcot and AK were great for distancing. Even with social distancing removed, people were never on top of us. I deal with GAD and people in my space (behind me particularly) is a trigger at times so I'm very aware of crowds and never try to put myself in them (like nighttime fireworks in parks)

It seems to have really turned in July on that front

 

[LittleBuford]

Impossible now maybe...

The present situation is what I and others are concerned about. By all accounts, the parks are really crowded now.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The present situation is what I and others are concerned about. By all accounts, the parks are really crowded now.

That typically hits the wall this weekend…it will be interesting to see if that holds this year?

 

[correcaminos]

The present situation is what I and others are concerned about. By all accounts, the parks are really crowded now.

I get that. Though even now they will drop off since school started this week for FL.

 

[correcaminos]

It seems to have really turned in July on that front

It always was bad until schools started back though... that's part of why we never do end of June through mid-Aug

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I get that. Though even now they will drop off since school started this week for FL.

They weren’t really catering to locals too much this year

It always was bad until schools started back though... that's part of why we never do end of June through mid-Aug

The reports I heard said there was shortages in restaurants, grocery stores, etc this summer…a real mess

there was a huge amount of car traffic that just kinda “showed up”…like the 70s or 80s.

that’s quarantine fever…and Orlando is flat footed because all their estimates are based on flights and onproperty rooms.

I want to see how that plays moving forward?

 

[correcaminos]

They weren’t really catering to locals too much this year

The reports I heard said there was shortages in restaurants, grocery stores, etc this summer…a real mess

there was a huge amount of car traffic that just kinda “showed up”…like the 70s or 80s.

that’s quarantine fever…and Orlando is flat footed because all their estimates are based on flights and onproperty rooms.

I want to see how that plays moving forward?

No, but other schools are back even here. Labor Day is for the NE. But areas like here already have sports and for my group, a fall musical auditions, now. I'll be doing the auditions this week. Call backs next. Not uncommon to drop off mid Aug. But we're watching. Our flights are on points and going for literally 1 ride (might toss in 1 or 2 others, but mainly outside). If crowds suck, we're going to cancel. If cases suck, we will also cancel. Pointing out that not all throw caution to the wind.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Florida set a new record for COVID hospitalizations. It will soon have more daily deaths than any of its previous spikes...

Texas, Missouri, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama are not far behind.