Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Tony the Tigger]

I guess I could go back and quote all the posts with no foresight saying, “I don’t care about case counts - hospitalizations aren’t up!”

Just know you were wrong. Again.

“Doom & gloom” = smart & paying attention.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Maybe if WDW had an extended closure it would have helped with vaccination rates.

Florida is heavily dependent on tourism.

 

[lisa12000]

I’m just wondering the difference between Florida and what we have seen in the uk - we don’t have 10,000 people in our hospitals for covid now despite a couple of months of high delta cases - it just seems to be presenting differently to what we are seeing - I can’t believe it’s just so it vaccination rates

 

[Polkadotdress]

Last year when many of those employees were still furloughed they got the extra federal unemployment to help them get by. That ends next month.

FL has already removed the additional federal unemployment, so…there’s that. Current unemployment payment is $275 max per week.

 

[DisneyFan32]

I am firmly in favor of a 3 prong plan to get vaccinations way up.

1. Full FDA approval (likely coming by mid-August)
2. A final stimulus check of at least $1,000 per person tied directly to vaccination
3. A strong recommendation from the CDC and Federal government for corporations to require vaccinations for employees to return to physical work (with the usual health and religious exemptions)

On the 3rd one I’m not opposed to allowing an option to let employees be tested frequently (weekly or several times a week) at the employee‘s expense as opposed to proof of vaccination. I think if we had these 3 things happen in conjunction with the EUA for kids under 12 we could get to 80%+ of the total population fully vaccinated by the end of the year. No clue if that would be enough but that’s what we have to shoot for at this point.

As New Jersey will be alright by late September/October @GoofGoof is Delta variant spreading is getting worse into Northeast states like NY and NJ.

 

[James J]

I’m just wondering the difference between Florida and what we have seen in the uk - we don’t have 10,000 people in our hospitals for covid now despite a couple of months of high delta cases - it just seems to be presenting differently to what we are seeing - I can’t believe it’s just so it vaccination rates

I think it is largely the vaccination rates. I'm sure someone can post the actual figure but Florida has under 50% of it's residents fully vaccinated.

There is of course the travel factor too with a lot of out of state visitors, being a tourist destination. Plus I'm going to guess mask wearing not being as prevalent as it is in the UK.

 

[Casper Gutman]

The long but varying incubation period for COVID is very convenient for travel destinations that want to ignore it. By the time symptoms are evident, guests are probably home and done spending money, and it’s difficult to link it definitively to the trip. Plausible deniability.

Someone’s going to challenge Florida’s regulations against demanding proof of vaccination. WDW is in the best position to do so, by a wide margin. If WDW starts to feel the effects of the current outbreak in their pocketbook and it spurs them to action, great.

 

[LittleBuford]

Maybe if WDW had an extended closure it would have helped with vaccination rates..

I don't doubt it. That's a difficult thing for me to acknowledge as a Disney fan.

 

[dreday3]

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I guess I could go back and quote all the posts with no foresight saying, “I don’t care about case counts - hospitalizations aren’t up!”

Just know you were wrong. Again.

“Doom & gloom” = smart & paying attention.

Even if you are right and even if I agree with you - this post is obnoxious.

Yay, you win?

 

[LittleBuford]

“I don’t care about case counts - hospitalizations aren’t up!”

The new retort will be, "Hospitalisation don't matter; deaths do."

 

[Casper Gutman]

Even if you are right and even if I agree with you - this post is obnoxious.

Yay, you win?

We’ve danced this dance over and over and over. The same pattern recurs. It’s not surprising people are losing patience. That will only intensify.

 

[GoofGoof]

Really sad to see multiple people celebrating hospitalizations going up. I can’t do this anymore. Stay safe people.

 

[dreday3]

Really sad to see multiple people celebrating hospitalizations going up. I can’t do this anymore. Stay safe people.

Exactly.

I'm devastated to see this happening. I hoped with everything I had it wouldn't. I don't want to go through this again either.

 

[dreday3]

The new retort will be, "Hospitalisation don't matter; deaths do."

Congratulations!

 

[LittleBuford]

Really sad to see multiple people celebrating hospitalizations going up.

No-one is celebrating hospitalisations going up.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Really sad to see multiple people celebrating hospitalizations going up. I can’t do this anymore. Stay safe people.

I don’t think it’s celebration. It’s frustration. We’ve heard the same excuses, always proved wrong, over and over. There’s no collective memory. It’s like arguing with bad-faith goldfish.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Really sad to see multiple people celebrating hospitalizations going up. I can’t do this anymore. Stay safe people.

Who’s celebrating?

 

[Lilofan]

I don’t think it’s celebration. It’s frustration. We’ve heard the same excuses, always proved wrong, over and over. There’s no collective memory. It’s like arguing with bad-faith goldfish.

Average human attention span is 8 seconds, less than the average goldfish.

 

[dreday3]

Because it's who I am and I have to find a positive - I found this read to be somewhat uplifting for those who chose vaccination - enjoy your Sunday evening!

About 99.999% of fully vaccinated Americans have not had a deadly Covid-19 breakthrough case, CDC data shows

More than 99.99% of people fully vaccinated against Covid-19 have not had a breakthrough case resulting in hospitalization or death, according to the latest data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

www.cnn.com

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Because it's who I am and I have to find a positive - I found this read to be somewhat uplifting for those who chose vaccination - enjoy your Sunday evening!

About 99.999% of fully vaccinated Americans have not had a deadly Covid-19 breakthrough case, CDC data shows

More than 99.99% of people fully vaccinated against Covid-19 have not had a breakthrough case resulting in hospitalization or death, according to the latest data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

www.cnn.com

Many of us who urged caution and questioned the speed with which restrictions were lifted were called "doom and gloomers" and ridiculed...even though we would have been happy to be wrong.