Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[VaderTron]

You have to remember that Italy is a country of about 60 million people. Even before this outbreak 1,750 people died every day in Italy. Even if the 600 that died were people that were not going to die from something else anyways last night it is only a 30% increase in the deaths. The reality is some of those 600 that died were already head to the great hereafter with or without the virus because when you are a really old person your days are clearly numbered.

You big problem is you are claiming that 600 death in a city in Italy... it was actually 600 in the whole country... fairly significant difference between a city and country.

The issue is in a part of the country that is overwhelmed because of the outbreak that was already spread due to lack of social distancing when "everything was fine". That's what will happen where people don't take it seriously. You're correct, 600 some is not a huge number in a whole country. 600 some deaths in LA would be. That's the kind of thing you can expect if people don't take precautions. Likely we won't see those levels because the government here has already taken precautions that would have made things worse if they hadn't.

 

[kong1802]

Because all of this is unnecessary until 30,000,000 catch it and 60,000+ die. Might as well keep dancing and prancing 'til then!

Well it isn't just our areas:

https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/lampasas-venue-says-theyll-still-have-weddings-says-covid-19-political-tactic-by-media

Why do people still think this was a media event?

Where ever people "learned" this from should be held accountable....

 

[thomas998]

It's the same here in North FL.

People were putting pictures up of full basketball courts and asking that people please monitor their kids better and not allow these large groups to assemble.

Seems like half the people were defending the grouping and half were preaching about social distancing. I was shocked at the amount of pro large group comments. Am I missing something?

If you really wanted to stop the spread the whole country would need to go on lock down at this point for probably 30 days. Closing the schools for a few weeks doesn't really do much to stop it, the government already missed the window to really do something effective when they failed to close all the airports in the country.

Worse still I'm hearing that some schools are going to reopen in April... if all these kids had been staying home alone for the past 3 weeks it might not be a problem, but way too many have gone and done their spring break trips picking up viruses in the airports across america. Be ready for another big blip in people infected as these people return home and spread their viral hitchhikers.

 

[Parker in NYC]

Well it isn't just our areas:

https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/lampasas-venue-says-theyll-still-have-weddings-says-covid-19-political-tactic-by-media

Why do people still think this was a media event?

Where ever people "learned" this from should be held accountable....

This is why I don't have faith. Anyone calling it a political tactic should run for office. As a business owner, probably not the best thing.

 

[DCBaker]

 

[21stamps]

It's the same here in North FL.

People were putting pictures up of full basketball courts and asking that people please monitor their kids better and not allow these large groups to assemble.

Seems like half the people were defending the grouping and half were preaching about social distancing. I was shocked at the amount of pro large group comments. Am I missing something?

My kid was playing basketball and on a trampoline with my niece and nephew and our neighbor yesterday.. I put a photo on FB of all 4 on the trampoline... I didn’t get any backlash, but maybe because it’s a small group.

 

[larryz]

Yes, which is why I responded that way. I’m a platinum passholder (means ‘all parks’) and have received no emails from Cedar Fair at all until this afternoon. See:my previous post from a couple of days ago.

Yeah, so I'd expect each of the CF parks to implement a similar policy.

 

[21stamps]

Yeah, so I'd expect each of the CF parks to implement a similar policy.

Right. They all did, and posted it. Within minutes of each other.

To try to clarify any misunderstanding, Knott’s has been closed.. but the other parks have been posting their normal PR.. nothing about the virus or delayed openings.. still having countdowns til opening day... Everyone (with a pass) has been wondering when an announcement would be made, and for how long. Platinum passholders have not received any emails at all, not even regarding Knotts.. the announcement of delayed openings finally came today.

 

[DCBaker]

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[larryz]

With all the sick social media stunts that are propagated by teenagers, I wonder if we'll get to the point where grocery stores will only permit anyone under the age of 18 in the store if they are accompanied by a parent or a guardian.

I'd rather see deputized posses rounding up said teenagers and locking them up.

 

[thomas998]

The issue is in a part of the country that is overwhelmed because of the outbreak that was already spread due to lack of social distancing when "everything was fine". That's what will happen where people don't take it seriously. You're correct, 600 some is not a huge number in a whole country. 600 some deaths in LA would be. That's the kind of thing you can expect if people don't take precautions. Likely we won't see those levels because the government has here has already taken precautions that would have made things worse if they hadn't.

Actually you could still see 600 die a day in LA. The country is already too far over the edge to avoid most people getting infected. LA has 4 million people, so a best scenario might only half get infected that's 2,000,000 and of those expect 1.5% to die so you've got 30,000 deaths whether they get ICU units or not... So then the question is only how many days can the virus' infection be spread over... if you spread it over 2 months you lose 500 a day... but if the people claiming 70% of the population will be infected then your at 700 a day dead. Split the difference and you've got your 600 a day dead. You can't keep people living in lockdown indefinitely so at some point people move about again and the virus spread right back to where it was headed. Your only real hope is if a treatment is found before that happens. A vaccine is probably a year off so might as well write that off because you can't keep people on lockdown for a year.

 

[Parker in NYC]

NYC-Chicago-LA-SF

Should have done this two weeks ago. But thank goodness. Waiting for many more states to follow suit.

 

[kong1802]

My kid was playing basketball and on a trampoline with my niece and nephew and our neighbor yesterday.. I put a photo on FB of all 4 on the trampoline... I didn’t get any backlash, but maybe because it’s a small group.

We are talking full courts that have 8 goals, so 4 full size courts pushed together. About 50-70 kids roughly. Definitely a different scenario..

 

[thomas998]

Idiots watch cable "news". If one has not yet learned by now that all of it is sensationalism to keep the 24-hour cycle ratings on the up and up, one is an IDIOT.

Doesn't matter if whether you know they are fear mongering idiots or not, there are a lot of people that watch rely on it as their source of the truth.

Frankly I wish we could get out cable TV alacarte so I could avoid having any of my money support stations like CNN, but I think in almost every cable provider CNN is a part of the basic package and you can't opt out of it.

 

[Parker in NYC]

Doesn't matter if whether you know they are fear mongering idiots or not, there are a lot of people that watch rely on it as their source of the truth.

Frankly I wish we could get out cable TV alacarte so I could avoid having any of my money support stations like CNN, but I think in almost every cable provider CNN is a part of the basic package and you can't opt out of it.

Yes, and they're idiots. I know donuts aren't the best source of nutrition (or any kind of good source!) for me but they don't comprise my entire diet.

 

[marni1971]

actually in the article the docs say they have stopped counting the dead because there are too many

That’s untrue then. Or misquoted. I hesitate to call it fake news but you seem to have believed it.

Italys toll rose by 627 in the last 24 hours. Last count was 4032.

 

[larryz]

And Italy is about the size of California.

It's closer to the size of Arizona in land area (116,340 sq mi vs 113,642 in AZ) but with the population (60+ million) of California (39+ million) plus Florida (21+ million).

 

[GoofGoof]

Doesn't matter if whether you know they are fear mongering idiots or not, there are a lot of people that watch rely on it as their source of the truth.

Frankly I wish we could get out cable TV alacarte so I could avoid having any of my money support stations like CNN, but I think in almost every cable provider CNN is a part of the basic package and you can't opt out of it.

The biggest problem is CNN, Fox News and MSNBC are mostly entertainment these days not actually news. In a continuing attempt at gaining ratings they have come to the conclusion that sadly people don’t want just the facts anymore. The more over the top you act the better the ratings. Especially in the evenings and mornings when the talking heads are on. In some cases not even an attempt at being accurate or factual. Some are worse than others. Some of the brainwashed masses still think they are News networks and believe everything they say without question. Just like professional wrestling is based on a real sport...it’s still entertainment.

Get your news from BBC or a local source.

 

[marni1971]

If you want to be more accurate he said we stopped counting after a certain number because there's too many dead.

It seems others in the country are still counting.

 

[GoofGoof]

You can lay all the blame squarely with CNN if you want, but IMO, their harping on how the administration mishandled this does not excuse any other stations to then tell people this isn't a big deal.

This was clearly mishandled in the beginning. Anyone not brainwashed can see that. Now is not the time to play the blame game. It’s about doing what’s necessary now before it’s too late. Every hour of every day counts. We wasted some in the beginning so there’s no time to spare now.