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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

DonniePeverley

Active Member

A former White House adviser has described the Delta variant as “coronavirus on steroids” as cases of the strain hit rural Kansas and Mississippi.

I honestly feel with the knowledge we know, and a month or so behind the UK, we should not be removing masks and removing all restrictions - especially in the parks. It's just so premature.
 

Jrb1979

Well-Known Member
I wonder if the US will issue a reciprocal update soon. Seems less likely to me that Canada would lessen the border restrictions if they knew the US wouldn't follow.
The land border is closed on both sides til July 22nd. Right now only Canadians can enter Canada with these new rules in place. I think big issue is the Vaccine passport. Canada is going to require it and the US wants no part of it.
 

Heppenheimer

Well-Known Member
The land border is closed on both sides til July 22nd. Right now only Canadians can enter Canada with these new rules in place. I think big issue is the Vaccine passport. Canada is going to require it and the US wants no part of it.
Hopefully, US citizens who want to visit Canada can piggyback on their system. I can't be the only US citizen who wants to visit family in Canada and Europe.

If the rest of the world moves in this direction, we'll have missed a huge opportunity to have a voice at the table.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member

I hope NJ, PA, CT, DC, FL, IL, MA and NY will have big surge because Delta variant takes over by this fall....:eek:

Why would you hope for that?

Also, if had bothered to read the article, it explicitly says it would be in places with low vaccination rates. None of the states you mentioned meet that criteria.
I believe they mean they hope that the vaccination rates will protect those states if there was a delta surge (lives in nj)

on a similar note...here’s the vaccination chart...both “uplifting” and sad...

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disneygeek90

Premium Member
CMs that I either spoke to or overheard yesterday seemed elated to be able to be mask free.

Now, if they can please reinstate all of the pre-shows (like ToT) things would get even better. However, they can leave out room #1 of FoP because the actor/character get's really grating after more than 20 seconds.
ToT, RnRC, MMRR preshows all operating yesterday. It was so good to see them again after such a long time.

Curiously enough, FoP was still doing the edited show/one room, though I think it was slightlyyyy extended from the original shortened version.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member

Starting July 5th fully vaccinated Canadians will be able to cross the border without having to quarantine upon return. A negative test will still be required and you must download the ArriveCanada app and link your vaccine record to it. It's the start of a vaccine passport. As of now only Canadians can enter Canada still.
...welcome back
 

danlb_2000

Well-Known Member
I think that’s part of it for sure. As more people get comfortable eating out and shopping again I think that swings back the other way though. Eventually there may not be enough orders to make ends meet once everyone goes back to full normal.

The other big issue is for some people they are making close to the same amount or more staying out on unemployment. The pandemic isn’t over so if I could stay home and stay safe vs going in to work for about the same pay I’d probably stay home. I drove yesterday from PA to NC and there are help wanted signs everywhere and many offering $500 to $1,000 in signing bonuses. It’s definitely a good market for job seekers.

Some places are cutting back hours due to the shortage. Just saw that Dorney Park is cutting back to 5 days a week. Have also seen some restaurants to this.
 

monothingie

Ok....Bye!
Premium Member
Daily dose of realism.


Thanks for your contribution.

If you're vaccinated, you're good to go. Live your life.
If you're not vaccinated, why? Still don't want to get the jab, then you accept the risks associated with it.
 

Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member
As of now the land border is closed til July 22nd. From what I understand is you still need a negative test to enter the US and one to enter Canada.

It's 3 tests total for those travelling by air:

1) within 72 hours of departure to USA
2) within 72 hours of departure to Canada
3) upon arrival in Canada at airport, and you stay at home until you get a negative result.

#2 is the one that annoys me most because you have to stop your vacation and figure out where you can find a place to get a PCR test.
 

RobbinsDad

Well-Known Member
Daily dose of realism.

Not sure where Gottlieb is getting his data surrounding "substantial upsurges of infection"... https://usafacts.org/issues/coronavirus/, Click the 4 states he mentioned (Alabama, Arkansas, Missouri, Mississippi) and you see little change in the daily reported cases since early May.

The vaccination rates are abysmal in these states and I agree they are vulnerable to the Delta variant, but the new case rates don't seem to be reflecting this... yet.
 

Jrb1979

Well-Known Member
It's 3 tests total for those travelling by air:

1) within 72 hours of departure to USA
2) within 72 hours of departure to Canada
3) upon arrival in Canada at airport, and you stay at home until you get a negative result.

#2 is the one that annoys me most because you have to stop your vacation and figure out where you can find a place to get a PCR test.
And its why I have plan to travel outside of Canada til all of that is gone. It's really not worth all that aggravation. It's summer so there is lots to enjoy in this country
 

hopemax

Well-Known Member
Not sure where Gottlieb is getting his data surrounding "substantial upsurges of infection"... https://usafacts.org/issues/coronavirus/, Click the 4 states he mentioned (Alabama, Arkansas, Missouri, Mississippi) and you see little change in the daily reported cases since early May.

The vaccination rates are abysmal in these states and I agree they are vulnerable to the Delta variant, but the new case rates don't seem to be reflecting this... yet.
Same as how national stats can overpower trends in specific states, large cities in states can overpower trends in other areas.

You can look at data on a county level on the New York Times.

Missouri has two counties that over the last 2 weeks, where cases are up over 2000%. But these are small counties, so they went from 0 cases per day to 10, 15, 20, 30+ cases a day. For those counties, it is definitely a surge. Dozens of counties are at 100% or higher case increase. But two that aren't... St. Louis and Kansas City.

Same with Arkansas. 25 counties at 100% increases the two highest at over 1250%, but Little Rock and Fort Smith's counties are not.

Mississippi and Alabama don't look nearly as bad as those, but they have some counties that are at +1000% or +500%
 

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