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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

danlb_2000

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I don’t understand this comment, why would people not staying at or visiting Disney directly be more or less likely to spread the virus? The numbers crammed onto the buses should necessitate the use of masks not where the people have come from or are going to.

That's not the point of my comment. My point was that these modes of transportation are considered "public transportation" because anyone can walk up and use them, you don't need to have park tickets or be a Disney guest. This is in contrast to the Walk Disney World Railroad which if operating would not be considered public transpiration.
 

mmascari

Well-Known Member
I don’t write policy for WDW, but the wording you’re proposing sounds a bit harsh.

These mitigation measures are different from the safety rules adopted by Disney that are directly related to their business. I’m not surprised by them simply stating the rule as an expectation and not getting caught up in enforcement.
I'll accept that my tone was on the harsh side and over the top.

I don't have a problem with them deciding to just be open either. The stats are down, community spread is down. It's not down enough that I would personally go with an unvaccinated kid. That's a personal decision. I'm fine if others, either all vaccinated or other that are fine with the levels they're at while unvaccinated going.

What I dislike is saying there's a rule "we expect Guests who are not fully vaccinated to continue wearing face coverings in all indoor locations, and upon entering and throughout all attractions" and fully expecting that this is not true.

If they said it was "no smoking" but were just fine with people smoking on It's a Small World, same reaction. If there's going to be a policy, either it means something or it doesn't.
 

Parker in NYC

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I'll accept that my tone was on the harsh side and over the top.

I don't have a problem with them deciding to just be open either. The stats are down, community spread is down. It's not down enough that I would personally go with an unvaccinated kid. That's a personal decision. I'm fine if others, either all vaccinated or other that are fine with the levels they're at while unvaccinated going.

What I dislike is saying there's a rule "we expect Guests who are not fully vaccinated to continue wearing face coverings in all indoor locations, and upon entering and throughout all attractions" and fully expecting that this is not true.

If they said it was "no smoking" but were just fine with people smoking on It's a Small World, same reaction. If there's going to be a policy, either it means something or it doesn't.
I'm sure it's just a CYA.
 

Bob Harlem

Well-Known Member
There is a blogger blogging that said the captain came on the loud speaker and said the entire ship was tested and no other positive cases.

If you search social media or youtube for the ship name "Celebrity Millennium" you can get some folks talking about it that are on board (set it to show videos within the last day or week to filter out the noise). "Adventure of the Seas" is the one that leaves from Nassau tomorrow and it's probably worth scanning youtube for that also. There's an ice skater on board the ship from Nassau tomorrow that's been vlogging https://www.youtube.com/c/JordanBauth97/videos that will probably be interesting to follow. I've been watching these ships closely since these are some of the best sources of hard data/proof for vaccine effectiveness you can find.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
I'll accept that my tone was on the harsh side and over the top.

I don't have a problem with them deciding to just be open either. The stats are down, community spread is down. It's not down enough that I would personally go with an unvaccinated kid. That's a personal decision. I'm fine if others, either all vaccinated or other that are fine with the levels they're at while unvaccinated going.

What I dislike is saying there's a rule "we expect Guests who are not fully vaccinated to continue wearing face coverings in all indoor locations, and upon entering and throughout all attractions" and fully expecting that this is not true.

If they said it was "no smoking" but were just fine with people smoking on It's a Small World, same reaction. If there's going to be a policy, either it means something or it doesn't.
People would be upset if smoking bans were not enforced. I think there’s more acceptance of them than mask mandates. I think based on the success of the vaccines, mask-wearing is not providing much in the way of additional protection.
 

Willmark

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Scientists in the UK are calling for a delay in the lifting of restrictions based on the fact—and it is a fact—that the Delta variant is causing a rise in cases and hospitalisations. The delay need not be long; all that’s required is for more people to be vaccinated, which shouldn’t be difficult given the success of the UK vaccine rollout.

How is any of that political?
Because everything is political these days.
 

Angel Ariel

Well-Known Member
People would be upset if smoking bans were not enforced. I think there’s more acceptance of them than mask mandates. I think based on the success of the vaccines, mask-wearing is not providing much in the way of additional protection.
For those that are vaccinated, sure. But a huge portion of WDW’s target audience - ie kids - don’t have access to that yet. And there are concerns about rising hospitalization rates for kids:

 

GimpYancIent

Well-Known Member
I don't agree. It's a fact that the variant is causing a rise in cases in parts of the UK. It's also a fact that delaying the reopening until more people are vaccinated will slow down that rise. I see nothing political in either of these observations.
Who's talking about sailing (cruising) to the UK?
 

GimpYancIent

Well-Known Member
I just deleted my first reply to you as I realised you may be referring to something I'm not familiar with. Could you please clarify what you're trying to say?
No issues. I was following the conversation and it seemed to be about cruising then the UK reference came in. By all means you should be concerned with the situation in your homeland of origin.
 
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Chi84

Premium Member
For those that are vaccinated, sure. But a huge portion of WDW’s target audience - ie kids - don’t have access to that yet. And there are concerns about rising hospitalization rates for kids:

We'll have to wait to see what the CDC says about it. The director has made comments signaling that they may drop mask recommendations for kids under 12.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
The "foaming at the mouth" happens on both sides of this madness. And either side tends to highlight the extremes to prove their own personal narrative.

Both sides have been right and both sides have been wrong on many occasions.

This thread has devolved into a juvenile display of "the scientific study I'm referencing can beat up the scientific study you're referencing".
Devolved into….when was it not that ;););)
 

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