LittleBuford
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On what basis do you say this?The authors of this paper have well-known political and conspiratorial biases.
On what basis do you say this?The authors of this paper have well-known political and conspiratorial biases.
Not really. Better than many, worse than some.Tabloid paper.
Whether one likes its contents or not, I don't think there's any denying that the Daily Mail is in format and style a tabloid.Not really. Better than many, worse than some.
Would we be more free if smallpox and polio were still present in the US?So should people be forced to be vaccinated?
I'm guessing you are against vaccine passports for international travel.
Then what's this issue if it becomes a requirement to have it. Schools require it for other vaccines and colleges are requiring it.As far as I know I don't care one way another if the countries I like visiting will make me pull out a CDC vaccination card at the customs and immigration window upon arrival.
Not going to argue with that at all but the response “tabloid paper” implied a derogatory opinion. Tabloid in the U.K. is generally applied to the less newsy papers.Whether one likes its contents or not, I don't think there's any denying that the Daily Mail is in format and style a tabloid.
ETA: It even describes itself as such:
"It's a seminal achievement. Never before has a middle-market tabloid reached the summit."
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Daily Mail becomes Britain's biggest-selling daily newspaper
New industry data for May reveals the Daily Mail has surged past The Sun as the nation's favourite, with an average Monday to Saturday daily sale of 948,000 copies through UK stores.www.dailymail.co.uk
Then what's this issue if it becomes a requirement to have it.
I came quite late to this party. But, believe it or not, I went back to page one and read almost the entire thing. And, I have found it to be both scientific and socially informative. And, I'm glad I found this thread.The whole back and forth of this thread for 15 months has been fascinating to read.
Does it have bamboo or a watermark in the paper it is printed on? Has it been fed to chickens and incinerated?Tabloid paper.
They already have vaccines being required for schools. That's probably where you will see it going forward.to what level of requirement?
And Issue??
As for the USA it is a huge legal issue. There's this pesky little thing called a Constitution and such a forced injection upon the populace ain't gunna go over so well without a robust US court challenge and dare I say even armed insurrection challenge.
But you know that already(or should).
If you and a certain dragon looking figure with a wild imagination are ultimately hoping for a forced injection you're setting yourselves up for a dissapointment.
I'm not opining on the matter, but please see the links in my earlier post:As for the USA it is a huge legal issue. There's this pesky little thing called a Constitution and such a forced injection upon the populace ain't gunna go over so well without a robust US court challenge and dare I say even armed insurrection challenge.
Some interesting links on the legality of mandatory vaccinations in the US:
Is Mandatory Vaccination Legal in Time of Epidemic?
Article explains the right granted to state public health agencies by the Supreme Court in Jacobson v Massachusetts to mandate vaccination in the presence of actual or threatened danger to the health of its residents from infectious disease.journalofethics.ama-assn.org
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Protecting Health, Saving Lives—Millions at a Timewww.jhsph.edu
No but I don't consider it a high level paper.Does it have bamboo or a watermark in the paper it is printed on? Has it been fed to chickens and incinerated?
Really interesting reads.I'm not opining on the matter, but please see the links in my earlier post:
Nobody is going to be strapped down and forced to be vaccinated. If it’s “required” it would be done through limiting people‘s ability to work or function in public settings without it. If for example all employers mandated a Covid vaccine as a term of employment then most people would have to comply because they need to work. If every conceivable leisure activity also required it most people would also comply since they wouldn’t want to sit out life. In any situation where the vaccine is mandated there needs to be some accommodation made for people who medically cannot be vaccinated or have a religious objection. This is how the flu vaccine mandates work in medical or long term care settings. The accommodation in those cases is typically that the employee is either moved to a non-public facing job if possible or if not possible they are required to wear extra PPE at all times during flu season.To what level? Strapping down against one's will as if being injected with with an execution cocktail like in Tarre Haute?
Compulsory? How far?
If Covid becomes endemic like many people think it will I do see this as the future. Just like MMR or other vaccines required of kids. Once the covid vaccine is fully approved and its well established to be safe long term there‘s no reason to assume we would have less acceptance than the vaccines for those other viruses.They already have vaccines being required for schools. That's probably where you will see it going forward.
I commend your dedication to weed through all these posts. As someone who posted from almost the beginning here I apologize for saying some of the same stuff over and over...and then changing my mind a few months laterI came quite late to this party. But, believe it or not, I went back to page one and read almost the entire thing. And, I have found it to be both scientific and socially informative. And, I'm glad I found this thread.
Why 70% and not 65% or 80%? Just curious why you chose that number.No one should be forced to be vaccinated but I am still of the belief that places of large gatherings should require proof of vaccination til 70% of the population is vaccinated.
I'm happy that it's looking like proof of vaccination will be a requirement to enter Canada.
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