danlb_2000
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Not sure how you start developing a booster now, for a variant that doesn't exist yet.
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Not sure how you start developing a booster now, for a variant that doesn't exist yet.
GoofGoof
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I don’t see why it would. They alter the flu shot every year based on which version of the flu is predicted to be around.
danlb_2000
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It is being reported that NJ will drop the indoor mask mandate for those who are vaccinated by Memorial Day. The governor has very recently said he wasn't a fan of the honor system approach, so it will be interesting to see how that change will be handled.
The flu that changes every year doesn't go through trials.
danlb_2000
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Which is what confuses me. Why do they not have to go through yearly trials, and is that reason applicable to the way mrna vaccines work?
GoofGoof
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I don’t know how it gets handled in public places with customers, but I’m seeing more and more places implementing a system where employees opt out of masking if they show proof of vaccination to their employer. I think that’s the moat powerful weapon we have to increase vaccinations. If every employer did that we would exceed 75% of adults with 1 shot in a few weeks.
danlb_2000
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My knowledge on the subject was limited to that post.
Yeah, I am hoping someone with some more knowledge will chime in.
danlb_2000
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Yeah, that would be a lot easier to enforce for employees. I think even the honor system would probably work ok for a lot of employers since I think employees would be less likely to lie then a random person off the street.
It depends on exactly what changes and how large a change it is from the current vaccine.
Think of the current vaccine being compared to brand new, nothing, no information at all. Nobody knew anything about it's efficacy or safety. Was the thing being created any better than just drinking lots of orange juice, was it any more toxic than drinking lots of Jagermeister.
A small change would be compared to the current baseline. Does the change decrease/keep the same/increase those same measurements vs the current baseline product. Along with what actually changed from the baseline. It's a revision not a new product.
Likewise, if the virus mutates so much that it's not really a variant but a completely new thing, needing a completely new vaccine, then it'll be a different set of testing and conditions.
Hiding in the details are what makes something a revision vs brand new. But, I think we're all assuming something along the lines of a revision and not starting from scratch.
danlb_2000
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Clearly I am not a doctor, nor qualified in any way to give any actual direct medical advice. Along with that Jagermeister was the baseline for toxic one should hope to not fall below.So you are saying I can cure the virus with orange juice in Jagermeister?
Having said that, it might work. Someone could give it try. Not me, but "someone".
I believe that's the look one has after consuming enough Jagermeister. At least that's what I've been told, I don't remember those years anymore.
If you try and it works, AND get's FDA approval for treatment, I would like 0.5% of all revenue.
If you mix the two, you're on your own. Even the thought makes me shudder.
Tom P.
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Also keep in mind that there is a difference between a booster being necessary because the immunity wears off and a booster being necessary because of variants. In the former case, a booster could just be another dose of the same exact vaccines we have now. In the latter case, it would require changing the vaccine.
Disney Analyst
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I share this not to start an argument, but to point out facts.
The facts are that Covid prevention measures WORK.
Masks work
Washing our hands work
Keeping our distance works
These restrictions WORK
The lack of a flu season is in complete support of this - and also helps prove the Covid-19 is not just a "Flu", as these measures pretty much prevented the flu, but could not fully prevent infection from Covid-19, which shows you just how much more easily transmissible this virus is.
Imagine if we had decided to have ZERO measures as some people across the world seem to support. Imagine that for one moment.
We'd have had a flu season, and Covid-19 running in parallel.
Thank you to our Doctors, Nurses, Health Workers, and Scientists. I apologize that so many are so foolish.
Tom P.
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The problem is that the conditions we've operated under during Covid are not sustainable in the long-term, such as doing them every flu season. You could not simply switch back to businesses having capacity limits, schools being shut down, six foot social distancing being required, entertainment venues closed, people asked to say away from their family members, etc. every time flu season rolls around. And while you could have people mask up each flu season, we don't know what, if any, effect that alone would have because the virtual elimination of the flu has been with masking in combination with all those other far more harsh mitigation measures.
Jrb1979
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Agreed. Not to keep harping on things but wish most states followed a similar plan mainly in regards to vaccination percentages.
If there's anything I learned since February 2020 is that no one knows anything until they know it. Deep thoughts by Parker... Oh, and you can calendar that.
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Stay Jersey, Jersey (I lived there, I can say it).
GimpYancIent
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Cerebral!
Hence the parody outro.
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