My take at this point is to let everyone who thinks this is all hype back out into the world, don't let them back in, deny them health care, and let nature take its course.
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My take at this point is to let everyone who thinks this is all hype back out into the world, don't let them back in, deny them health care, and let nature take its course.
"The virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is stable for several hours to days in aerosols and on surfaces, according to a new study from National Institutes of Health, CDC, UCLA and Princeton University scientists in The New England Journal of Medicine. The scientists found that severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) was detectable in aerosols for up to three hours, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel."
New coronavirus stable for hours on surfaces
SARS-CoV-2 stability similar to original SARS virus.www.nih.gov
I was being sarcastic. I know it's true.
PeoplemoverTTA
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It says that you can sign up for free to read articles on coronavirus.
I read several reputable sources that said it can live for up to 24 hours on cardboard. Other surfaces can last between 2 and 9 days. I would personally err on the side of caution and equate paper to cardboard, but I'm no expert.
JoeCamel
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"The virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is stable for several hours to days in aerosols and on surfaces, according to a new study from National Institutes of Health, CDC, UCLA and Princeton University scientists in The New England Journal of Medicine. The scientists found that severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) was detectable in aerosols for up to three hours, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel."
New coronavirus stable for hours on surfaces
SARS-CoV-2 stability similar to original SARS virus.
Important to note;
I heard a doctor (head of institute of virology at some college) speak to this point. His distinction was even if you can find evidence of the rNA it probably is not infectious for that long nor does it have enough inoculant load to get someone sick from it.
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ImperfectPixie
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Thank you! Didn't catch that.
21stamps
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"The virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is stable for several hours to days in aerosols and on surfaces, according to a new study from National Institutes of Health, CDC, UCLA and Princeton University scientists in The New England Journal of Medicine. The scientists found that severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) was detectable in aerosols for up to three hours, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel."
New coronavirus stable for hours on surfaces
SARS-CoV-2 stability similar to original SARS virus.
The nursing homes wanted to accept them.
Maybe they will set the letters to the side for 24 hours prior to handing out/hanging up?I don’t know, but I hope more people do this. Leaving everything in a box for 24 hours would be a small thing to do if it would provide a little happiness for those who can’t even be visited by family right now.
And it is possible that the government officials know that facts and are trying to scare people into following the guidelines... but honestly those guidelines aren't worth a flip unless they are enforce with fines. When I was out yesterday I noticed that the only real change was the fast food places were all drive through only... Stores were still open and parking lots were still full at places that are not providing necessities. I drove past a Hobby Lobby and it was open with people shopping inside, so apparently there are a lot of people that think buying fake flowers and craft supplies are worth the risk... The closing of schools will slow things down, but as long as airports are open and people are still shopping all over the place you aren't going to really stop the virus, you'll probably barely slow it down. I am still confused as to why they haven't stopped airplanes and public transportation... those two areas are going to do more to spread the virus than shutting down the dine-in area of a McDonalds.
21stamps
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I’m hoping that the facilities themselves would have already looked into the risks and know the best way to handle it.
Well there are some cultural differences that made the virus spread even quicker in Italy than it will in the US even if neither country did anything at all. Italians like some other europeans are into that kiss on the cheek greeting. What better way to spread a virus is there short of a full on lip to lip kiss. That in and of itself was probably the one thing that has made the virus spread so quickly in Italy.
ELG13
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I'll take it even further and say they were like many Americans saying "that won't happen here". When I first learned of it when I first started in China, I told my husband and some friends and said it's not going to be good if we don't do something now to stop it. They all looked at me like I was crazy. They all said it wouldn't get here, if it does it won't spread like there. But guess who bought and extra 12 pack of toilet paper for just such an occasion in January?? This girl
Just kidding... But seriously. No one thought it would happen.
ImperfectPixie
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Lysol kills Covid-19...they could spray the letters and let them sit?The nursing homes wanted to accept them.
I don’t know, but I hope more people do this. Leaving everything in a box for 24 hours would be a small thing to do if it would provide a little happiness for those who can’t even be visited by family right now.
I'm 100% behind huuuuge fines for the people not doing what they're supposed to. Then use that money to help everyone else. People encouraging mass gatherings like that pastor? $20,000 fine.
Elon Musk may be a genius in some ways, but holy hell is he a moron in others.
<=== Not one of those people
Weren't his plants supposed to be run by robots? I thought his original plan was fully automated car plants... don't know if he ever got close but maybe he thinks his workers are much more spread out than in a typical car plant.
Frankly I'm guessing he can't afford to shut down as his financials Tesla were teetering on the the edge of collapse at one time.
Disstevefan1
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Walt Disney survived the Spanish flu but I fear The Walt Disney Company (as we knew it) may not survive the Coronavirus....
Time will tell.
My hope is that The Walt Disney Company will not fall to a hostile takeover and will resume business as usual when this is over.
Time will tell.
My hope is that The Walt Disney Company will not fall to a hostile takeover and will resume business as usual when this is over.
Dukeblue1227
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At no point in time did I mention anything to do with the US regarding H1N1, not once did I say anything about it. The global deaths were roughly 500k, on nearly 1 billion people.
Also, I misspoke, I meant a global healthCARE concern, meaning there was no risk to healthCARE systems - as in they weren't being overwhelmed and overfull with severe ICU cases. I'm sorry I misspoke, but it didn't change my overall point.
Lastly, my overall point was how big of a global scare and concern this is, and actually pointed to what Italy is currently going through as why people need to be more concerned. My point was that this is far worse than H1N1, my point was not downplaying H1N1, so if anything you helped my argument which is that this is more severe than that was, and you're trying to condemn for seemingly downplaying it, which isn't the point.
This is an awful time in the world right now, absolutely horrible. There is far too much divisiveness in the world and hatred. There's no need for such an aggressive and attacking post at a person who is raising legitimate concerns about public health. My entire comment was about the global world populations health and how we need to all act as one for the better of society, and your response was to attack me for no reason.
People will always blindly hate on and be aggressive to people on the internet, but now is not really the time for that. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean you need to attack them. Everyone is impacted, everyone is scared, everyone has loved ones in danger or are in danger themselves. Please, leave the aggressiveness out of it.
ImperfectPixie
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I don't discriminate. I make fun of people doing crazy things no matter where they're from.
In all seriousness though...I do love Florida...just not some of the people who visit there. I live in a tourist town and I don't like some of the people who visit here, either.
ImperfectPixie
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Honestly, I don't know...I don't follow him or his company very much because he falls under my "too much like Sheldon Cooper combined with a lot of super crazy" category.
TrainsOfDisney
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Is it a law not to have a church service? Or a government recommendation?
You can’t keep the beaches open and then fine people for going to them...
So Italy is a country a little larger than Arizona, which ranks 6th in size among the US states. The population is roughly equivalent to those of California and Florida combined... rougly 21.5 million of its 60.3 million people live in its 14 largest cities/urban zones.
Again, it would take a herculean effort to find, isolate, treat and take care of those just in the Italian cities... imagine trying to find everyone in Arizona!
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