You’re missing the point. It wouldn’t be an immediate change for business.Businesses can enforce whatever policies they want. But it would create incentive for a lot more vaccinations which would lead to businesses changing their rules faster because of the higher vaccination percentage
That makes no sense. Telling people they no longer have to wear a mask anywhere once vaccinated will make it exceedingly difficult for a business to enforce a mask rule. People will show up and argue they no longer need a mask.
Sure. But at some point we're going to have to hold our collective breaths and do it. As long as everyone is still required to mask up, regardless of vaccine status, you're going to have hold outs. Maybe enough to hold us back from herd immunity.
They do. Just because you don't like the outcome doesn't mean they are unhappy with the result.
More good news, which I will insist on continuing to inject into this thread.
. Just under half the states are over 45%. We also did almost a million new first doses yesterday. Guess I had 3 more
Nothing to do with me. I don’t live there so not worried about the result. If people don’t like the ban on vaccine passports then vote against the people who put it in. If you don’t vote then don’t complain.
At which point they can be refused service. It makes perfect sense. People are more willing to get a vaccine once mask guidelines go away. So if an additional 10% of people get the vaccine right away then more restrictions being lifted by local/state governments and businesses would be soon to follow. Not to mention There are already tons of businesses who have mask policies that aren’t enforced, such as Walmart, Lowe’s Kroger, Publix but the overwhelming majority of people shopping are still wearing them. People in general will do the right thing. Yes there will be some who break the rules but that’s honestly a small percentage of people. I live in GA, there has never been a state or local mandate in my area, yet 95% of people have masks on because they respect the rules of the establishment they’re shopping in.
We can agree to disagree. Disney will not and should not have a policy and then just not enforce it. Terrible idea and basically just saying drop all requirements today.
How about we wait for that moment until the vaccine is at least available to all ages?
Do Georgia, Texas, Florida et al have higher vaccination rates than other places? If not, then the argument that government restrictions are hampering vaccination doesn’t really follow.
I never said Disney should just drop their policies today. I noted the companies who currently require masks but don’t enforce them. I also said it would come quicker if the fed would actually follow scientific evidence that suggest vaccinated people don’t need to wear one ever. That would lead to a higher vaccination percentage which would lead to businesses reforming their policies faster because the spread of the virus would decrease quicker.
Fair point. No Georgia actually has a low vaccination rate but people in general still wear them. Like I said earlier though the majority of people I know won’t get one because they see no incentive to do so. This also aligns with polls that suggest mask wearing is preventing people from getting the vaccine. Anything the fed says isn’t binding to private establishments but it would boost public confidence and more people on the fence about getting them would be more willing.
The 7 day daily average from the CDC stats says there were 40k infections and 650 deaths yesterday. Say 230,000 yearly. General consensus here is somewhere under 150 daily deaths, 55,000 yearly. As has been pointed out, the value is a policy one not a public health one.
All this shows is that you don’t understand the difference between individual items and public health policy items, along with how they interact. I suspect that’s not entirely true, that it’s more you don’t want to understand the difference, or are ignoring it because you don’t like the result. That would match the messages best.
More good news, which I will insist on continuing to inject into this thread.
Anyone saying that mask wearing is making them not want to get vaccinated is just looking for an excuse.
No. All in the bottom half of states. GA being the worst of the 3 at 44th
Absolutely. I didn't suggest anything to the contrary. I just said there will come a moment when we have to go there.
