Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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CaptainAmerica

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GoofGoof said:
That isn’t even remotely true. That’s been the problem with Covid from the start, people think in such absolutes. If a case occurs in schools while kids are masked that means masks aren’t 100% effective 100% of the time so drop them. Nobody ever said masks were 100% effective all of the time. They reduce spread, they don’t eliminate it. That’s always been the case. Having spread in a school while kids are masked provides no evidence whatsoever that masks are ineffective in slowing spread. It is only proof they aren’t 100% effective in stopping all spread.
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I didn't post the link, she did.

Several ACTUAL studies have shown that masks do next to nothing in elementary school settings as long as distancing can be maintained.
 
Figgy1

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GoofGoof said:
That isn’t even remotely true. That’s been the problem with Covid from the start, people think in such absolutes. If a case occurs in schools while kids are masked that means masks aren’t 100% effective 100% of the time so drop them. Nobody ever said masks were 100% effective all of the time. They reduce spread, they don’t eliminate it. That’s always been the case. Having spread in a school while kids are masked provides no evidence whatsoever that masks are ineffective in slowing spread. It is only proof they aren’t 100% effective in stopping all spread.
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Aren't the kids unmasked during lunch?
 
GoofGoof

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danlb_2000 said:
My company has a very strict masking policy, all desks are social distanced, temperature and symptom checks before entering the building and a very rigorous process if someone in the building is found to be infected. So far we have not had any infections within the building that we know of.
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We had a strict policy since the building re-opened. Masks and temp checks and limited capacity. This return to the office plan is a little suspect to me. We have an open office with just desks and no cubicles (like the picture below). The desks are closer than 6 feet apart but if we are going down to 3 feet we may be in compliance.

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danlb_2000

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GoofGoof said:
We had a strict policy since the building re-opened. Masks and temp checks and limited capacity. This return to the office plan is a little suspect to me. We have an open office with just desks and no cubicles (like the picture below). The desks are closer than 6 feet apart but if we are going down to 3 feet we may be in compliance.

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Parts of my office use desks like this. Fortunately me and most of my team are in a less open area that has normal cubes so people are much more separated.
 
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DisneyFan32

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@GoofGoof 1) is this new variants will gonna impact vaccines in the future is really gonna happen or not? 2) Is masks will be gone forever along with social distancing too this year?
 
correcaminos

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TrainChasers said:
Very good post.

I’m not anti-vaccine but it’s true that the vaccines were rushed and that are still not fully approved, only approved for emergency use. There have been a few rare, serious reactions to the J&J and Pfizer vaccines that are concerning.

Those are facts.
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No, those are not facts. I'm not even sure what Pfizer stuff you are talking about either.

Smooth said:
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Meanwhile Franklin Co made it to level 3 again and out of purple.
 
CaptainAmerica

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danlb_2000 said:
Can you provide links to these studies?
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I have zero interest in hunting for original source studies from my phone, but it's out there.

Masks are useful when indoors and unable to maintain distancing. They're unnecessary when kids are stationary at desks, facing the same direction, distanced from one another. They *are* useful in hallways or I guess if your schools have dumpy little classrooms where everyone is on top of each other.
 
hopemax

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CaptainAmerica said:
I didn't post the link, she did.

Several ACTUAL studies have shown that masks do next to nothing in elementary school settings as long as distancing can be maintained.
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And there are studies that indicate distancing can't be maintained, because many schools don't have the space. The big one that changed CDC guidance specifically. Schools reported they failed with distance, but kept up masks.
 
ImperfectPixie

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CaptainAmerica

CaptainAmerica

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hopemax said:
And there are studies that indicate distancing can't be maintained, because many schools don't have the space. The big one that changed CDC guidance specifically. Schools reported they failed with distance, but kept up masks.
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Okay fine so let the dumpy school districts with the cramped classrooms mask.

This is silly lowest common denominator thinking. Masks are useful in some schools, so we must make masks mandatory in all schools, is that your position?
 
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