MLB had an agreement in place that if 85% of staff and players were vaxed they could loosen restrictions in clubhouses. To that effect, many teams have already reached that benchmark. There was a concrete "reward" that I think is being lost on the general public at the moment.
It doesn’t help that Fauci has been repeatedly expressing hesitance about whether the vaccine will cover variants and mutations. He was still suggesting we wear masks because vaccinated people might still spread it. That frustrated me because I want to protect my son who is too young to be vaccinated. I don’t want to be spreading it to him. It’s not zero risk for kids. That’s why I think some common sense precautions to protect children still carry a benefit until we see results from the vaccine. This summer shouldn’t be like last summer though. We can compromise on a lot more now that most people will be vaccinated. Nobody needs to be wearing masks on beaches or at parks. I encourage it for Disney because it is crowded and trying to micro manage an indoor only rule is too confusing.
The percentage isn't the point of my post. The point is that they need to be clear about which percentage they want to reach.
I'd love for them to do that. But I don't think for a hot second it would change the mindset of some of those in charge in certain states.
Sure does. But, just like FL uses state funds to “enforce” the EO, see how quickly they and other similar states that are trying this approach buckle if the feds similarly withhold funds for not participating in a national database.
As does MSNBC, CNN and all the rest. Don't even attempt to claim they aren't all full of misinformation. For every example you find on one, you'll find something on the others.
And who suffers the most from those mindsets? We do unfortunately.
If you say so.
Vaccine passports really are the only way. People who are vaccinated want masks and social distancing to be gone yet the one way to do it they are against. Imagine going to Disney and not having to wear a mask cause they people allowed in are vaccinated.There's a lot more green boxes in the vaccinated column. The mask may be the same in most, but the risk profile is not the same.
Yes.
Worse yet, if not enough do, having a large pool of circulating virus in constant contact with vaccinated people is a recipe for long term disaster.
While I dislike that we appear not able to reduce spread enough because of vaccine holdouts that we may require passports, I'm starting to think it may be the only way. I think the implementation is going to be full of peril and conflict, and will still leave us wide open to the problems of uncontrolled spread. But, it may be the only thing to convince enough people to vaccinate if the alternative is being excluded from large parts of society.
Packed in, every seat full. Spread the 15% of kids under 16 out so they're not next to each other. What's the point of only allowing vaccinated people to do something if you're going to impose the same restrictions you would on everyone. Have 130 people in the theater in normal seats not the lounge chairs. Eating popcorn, laughing, 20 kinds spread out across the room. After all, we asked everyone and they all said they were vaccinated. We should be fine, no mitigation needed at all. Those kids are counting on it, they're far enough from each other, but right on top of everyone else.
I'm going to assume you haven't read anything else I've posted, as that couldn't be farther from the truth. There is a huge difference between the current community spread going on now and low spread (not zero, but lower than today) where it effectively wouldn't matter. Sure, 650+ deaths a day is way better than 4,000, but it's not good under any definition of good. Lets see it somewhere under 150 and we can go nuts. I mean you're right, if we never get the impact below the levels of today, we're never getting back to normalcy, just learn to live with the extra death and long term impacts. Fortunately, we're still vaccinating, so it'll go down more than today. The question is just will it go far enough before the "not getting vaccinated" crowd sets the floor.
Pretty much what people are already doing is spreading infections too.
I really don’t think passports will materialize but man that does sound nice!
So wait, because the networks that say things you agree with make these claims, then it's valid and verified? That doesn't corroborate anything it just perpetuates it.
Yes because the “valid” sources have been hitting it out of the park on a consistent basis.
the EU thing? That US citizens can go this summer IF vaccinated.
I said he has a lot to answer for, and I stand by that. Anyone with such an influential platform has an obligation to use it responsibly. Whether they should or not, people will follow his advice, and he's been in the game long enough to know that. Yes, he has every right to say what he wants, and I acknowledge that, but the words we choose to utter can have serious real-life consequences, particularly when you enjoy as large and devoted a following as he does.
