Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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disneygeek90

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You would think ROTR wouldn't need help with discounts based on we've had boarding groups since start of Dec. IDK if Corona would scare off ROTR fans or not. ESP if CMs are allowed to fix all of ROTR's Problems before reopen...
From what was reported yesterday with construction I don't have hopes up that programmers are plugging away at the ROTR coding. Maybe they can do that remotely? I'm legitimately not sure.
 

Rich Brownn

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The media isn't just reporting what medical authorities put out, that is big part of the problem. The media is going around to find doctors that have a belief that is as pessimistic as possible to get soundbites from. Then you have our supposed authorities lying to us like the Surgeon General that claimed masks don't do anything and are not effective... of course the next sentence out of his mouth was we need the masks for the doctors... Well sorry but most people can remember what he said 10 seconds earlier and the only thing you knew for certain was that he was lying. Either the doctors were going to be duped into wearing a mask that meant nothing or the people were being duped into thinking the mask wasn't worth using. So spare me the blind faith in every "medical authority" it is clear that some have agendas which are not based on providing accurate factual information.
Different kinds of masks.
 

thomas998

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Italy: "Unfortunately the numbers of the contagion are not decreasing, they continue to be high. Soon we will not be able to give an answer to those who get sick," the governor said.

That's why this is so serious. Italy is to the point they literally can't help patients.
Of course part of the reason is the number of ICUs per capita in Italy is pretty small 12.5 per 100,000 people which is about 1/3rd of the number in the US... So the US should be able to go further before reaching the point Italy is in all other things being equal. If I was going to worry about another country running out of capacity for medical treatment it would be the UK which only has 6.6 beds per 100,000 so half as many per person as Italy.
 

VaderTron

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"The new coronavirus will infect half of the global population and have a fatality rate of up to 3%, analysts said Wednesday.

“We assume that the virus will infect around 50% of the world population; 20% of the cases will be severe, and 1-3% will result in deaths,” analysts from the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) said in a note."

If that were true some 40 million-120 million people would die. If true the panic we've seen so far is an under-reaction of exponential proportions. Not true and the people stating these things and causing mass panic should be sent to prison for life.
 

The Mom

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Of course part of the reason is the number of ICUs per capita in Italy is pretty small 12.5 per 100,000 people which is about 1/3rd of the number in the US... So the US should be able to go further before reaching the point Italy is in all other things being equal. If I was going to worry about another country running out of capacity for medical treatment it would be the UK which only has 6.6 beds per 100,000 so half as many per person as Italy.

Just a FYI - we routinely had respirator patients on non-ICU units way back when - they had started there, but were transferred after the acute phase was over. Granted, an ICU might have more convenient equipment, but it was (and probably still is) possible to treat patients elsewhere in the hospital. It may be a case of teaching young nurses/caregivers old-school procedures. And it of course depends upon whether hospitals have gotten rid of the equipment that was used. When my friend's mother was admitted to the hospital in the late 80s, the staff had to go and search in the basement for their last remaining iron lung, and her son had to show them how to set it up.
 

Bartattack

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I had the news on for over 2 hours this morning at work and not once did they mention anything in regards to recovery rates or even a glimmer of hope. Just straight up fear and now theyre reporting on how "afraid" medical staff are. Just throw some gasoline on the fire.

I think that's also because the recovery (of people who are actually in hospitals) is going slowly. I can only speak for cases here in Belgium:
A guy (35) had first symptoms on march 4. Small fever, coughing, dry throat. coughing got much worse... so after a few days he went to ER. He tested positive. He was in the hospital for 2 weeks. first in ICU with ventilation machine and after 5 days in a special quarantine room for lung-patients. Today he was discharged from the hospital but he has to stay home for another 3 weeks and has to avoid contact with other people because he is not yet fully cured. That's 4 to 5 weeks since he first had the symptoms...
 

ImperfectPixie

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I think that's also because the recovery (of people who are actually in hospitals) is going slowly. I can only speak for cases here in Belgium:
A guy (35) had first symptoms on march 4. Small fever, coughing, dry throat. coughing got much worse... so after a few days he went to ER. He tested positive. He was in the hospital for 2 weeks. first in ICU with ventilation machine and after 5 days in a special quarantine room for lung-patients. Today he was discharged from the hospital but he has to stay home for another 3 weeks and has to avoid contact with other people because he is not yet fully cured. That's 4 to 5 weeks since he first had the symptoms...
The range of severity with this virus is freaky. I read of another patient that was only in the hospital for three days.
 

The_Jobu

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And yet there are a growing number who - in today's era of information - believe and are convinced to their core that the earth is flat.

They're entertaining at least. I always like seeing what kooky things they come up with. It's like a fun imagination game that makes you think about remedial science to explain the concepts to them.
 

DisneyCane

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But if you get infected with the HIV virus you have it forever.

Can someone explain to me why that virus last forever and some virus's don't

HIV attacks the immune system and therefore prevents you from fighting it off. No human has ever cured themselves from HIV.

Other viruses, your immune system produces antibodies to fight off. Once your immune system "learns" to fight a particular virus, it is able to fight it more easily in the future. This is the concept behind vaccines.

There is no HIV vaccine because no immune system has "learned" to fight it off.
 

VaderTron

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I don't think many are looking at the balance of their 401Ks including me. This is a worldwide meltdown. Who is actually going to visit WDW if a number of folks don't have jobs, income or savings?
We haven't heard from @Chef Mickey on this, but they probably can't wait to spend their money at WDW now that crowding issues have been dealt with Dwight Schrute style.


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The Mom

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I think I've heard more about the 1918 outbreak in the last 2 weeks than in my entire life. Its like everyone forgot about it until now. Wonder if 2120 they'll have forgotten this one?

There are only a handful of people alive now who were alive then, and they were babies or toddlers. My now long deceased neighbor was a young girl then, and she would tell stories about seeing someone in church on Sunday and going to their funeral on Tuesday - until they prohibited both church services and non-family at funerals.

Those of us who survived the polio epidemic are Boomers now, and most were pretty young, so we only have limited memories of that time. I remember my mother being so frightened that I got every vaccination that came out in every delivery form - needles, high pressure "gun" and finally, sugar cubes. So both Salk & Sabin vaccines. I remember the beaches, theaters, and amusement park being closed. I don't remember schools closing, but I was PK/Kindergarten age, and Kindergarten wasn't required. I do remember the after affects, such as a classmate with leg braces & crutches, some fellow schoolmates with limps, and a friend's mother using a chest compressor in their dining room turned into a hospital room.
 

ImperfectPixie

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There are only a handful of people alive now who were alive then, and they were babies or toddlers. My now long deceased neighbor was a young girl then, and she would tell stories about seeing someone in church on Sunday and going to their funeral on Tuesday - until they prohibited both church services and non-family at funerals.

Those of us who survived the polio epidemic are Boomers now, and most were pretty young, so we only have limited memories of that time. I remember my mother being so frightened that I got every vaccination that came out in every delivery form - needles, high pressure "gun" and finally, sugar cubes. So both Salk & Sabin vaccines. I remember the beaches, theaters, and amusement park being closed. I don't remember schools closing, but I was PK/Kindergarten age, and Kindergarten wasn't required. i do remember the after affects, such as a classmate with leg braces & crutches, some fellow schoolmates with limps, and a friend's mother using a chest compressor in their dining room turned into a hospital room.
I keep having pictures from the Great Depression flash through my mind...my mother was an older toddler during the polio epidemic, so I've heard a story or two from her. I really fear for America right now because on the whole, we can be a rebellious bunch, and it doesn't seem like enough of us are taking this seriously (or are preventing others from getting basic supplies because they're freaking out TOO much).

ETA: Thank goodness for all you guys, because while we're talking about this whole thing, you are helping to keep me from going too deeply into my own head.
 
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