@GoofGoof by June or July we will know about herd immunity if we will herd immunity soon enough, that is possible we might go back to normal by late summer like August or September or fall like October? If US will lift masks for good by later this year like September or October/November if everything's okay as COVID-19 is no longer a threat and the pandemic is over by then, then we will going back to normal for good right?
But there could be a difference of 1ft to 6ft. It’s going the other direction and it doesn’t look like less than 6 ft is ever discussed.
Looking good for you. Thats the equivalent of a daily average of 7.5 cases per 100,000 people. If the whole country was at that level we’d be at about 25,000 cases a day. That‘s a lot better than where we are today. Fauci and other experts when pressed to give a number of new daily cases that would the trigger a removal of major Covid mitigations like masks and distancing said under 10,000 cases a day which is roughly 3 cases per 100,000 people. So for your area when the case average per day drops below 7 that’s the level he’s talking about. Pretty close already
True. I kinda read it as distancing doesn’t matter as much indoors in a confined space with a mask because the particles that get through your mask are so fine they float in the air so 6 feet or 60 you are just as likely to inhale them. I assume the same applies for 1 foot. With dining and the masks off I think larger particles can be “ejected” and someone closer than 6 feet can inhale them. Kinda gross when you think about all the times pre-covid when you ate out in a crowded restaurant and how many spit particles you were unknowingly inhaling
If we reach 10,000 cases a day like a couple months (August or September/October) then the masks and social distancing will gone for good?Looking good for you. Thats the equivalent of a daily average of 7.5 cases per 100,000 people. If the whole country was at that level we’d be at about 25,000 cases a day. That‘s a lot better than where we are today. Fauci and other experts when pressed to give a number of new daily cases that would the trigger a removal of major Covid mitigations like masks and distancing said under 10,000 cases a day which is roughly 3 cases per 100,000 people. So for your area when the case average per day drops below 7 that’s the level he’s talking about. Pretty close already
Do you know what percent of people in those counties is vaccinated?
That’s what the great Dr Fauci said at some point in the not so distant past (he’s been promoted to “great” again because he’s back to saying stuff I like
). I think it’s more of a guideline than a firm number but that’s the ballpark he thinks is appropriate. I’m sure in some places it may be even sooner and others later.
Or if we decide to let people make their own choices and return to normal without masks and social distancing despite what they will or will not do
Vaccine passports are the answer then.
Wouldn‘t it be a lot easier for everyone to just get the vaccine. It’s free, it’s really easy now and it’s almost 100% safe. What’s the downside to just getting it? Nobody is saying anyone has to do it, just that they should want to. Even if they don’t care one bit about getting covid themselves they should just get the vaccine because it’s the fastest way to get all of us back to normal life. That’s a fact. You know as well as I do that the government and businesses and the rest of society will not just let people go back to normal without masks and distancing with the cases where they are. It’s a pipe dream and has been since the beginning. The only way we get back to normal is if enough people get the vaccine. Resisting is only slowing down that process. So when people complain about having to wear a mask or distance or being out of work blame the people who favor their own choice over doing something for the common good.
Vaccine passport solves everything.
To get people to take the vaccine or to stop spread? It would probably help get some people vaccinated. I don’t think vaccine passports will do much to stop covid spread. Most large public venues that would require them have masks and distancing and are not large sources of known spread. Even with passports people will still be interacting privately and in many settings where spread is more common.
For both. Most large public venues aren't at full capacity yet. I'm sure most would like to drop masks and social distancing for 100% capacity. Most people who are vaccinated have a low chance of getting Covid so private gatherings shouldn't be an issue. I see no reason not to have them. I feel the ones against it are anti-vaxxers and those with young kids.
One venue I think passports would be super intriguing with is movie theaters. I know that’s one activity people are hesitant to go back to.
I agree venues could potentially drop some or all Covid protocols if everyone inside was vaccinated. That doesn’t necessarily help with spread though. If we want to get cases down having WDW open with no covid restrictions but only for people with a passport would not really help unless you think it’s the source of major spread. I think a lot of the spread is happening in private homes which passports don’t address and also at restaurants or bars which also wouldn’t be addressed by a passport. It would obviously be a nice perk for the people who are vaccinated and wouldn’t create any additional risk despite relaxing restrictions.
And those people that are defying medical experts’ advice for the sake of “personal freedom” are the ones ruining it for the rest of us.
I have a feeling that movie theaters will not consider that as an option. Even before COVID, a lot of the major chains like AMC were having money trouble - they will be hesitant to alienate potential guests. It doesn't help that a lot of the people that have been attending movie theaters over the last year are probably among the "COVID's not a threat to me, I'm not getting vaccinated" crowd.
This solution isn’t alienating, though. They can have 50% of their showings vaccinated and 50% not. In this instance they can raise the capacity of the vaccinated rooms, increasing both ticket sales and in consequence, food and drink sales.
Getting people vaccinated should bring spread down on its own. I agree a lot of spread is in private homes and the vaccine passport wouldn't help. That's not the reason I believe in passports. It may sound selfish but if I am going to a theme park or a sporting event I want to know that everyone else there is vaccinated. Then I feel better about not wearing a mask or others social distancing.
