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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

Figgy1

Premium Member
Funny you say that but I am retired from medicine. And let’s just say I went to school a lot longer to get my degree than a person does to become a PA. But I’m sure Mr. Hollywood is quite knowledgeable in the science of epidemiology. I’ll defer to his intelligence on the subject.
You don't by chance know of somebody selling snake oil er um essential oils to cure diseases;)



 

Parker in NYC

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Funny you say that but I am retired from medicine. And let’s just say I went to school a lot longer to get my degree than a person does to become a PA. But I’m sure Mr. Hollywood is quite knowledgeable in the science of epidemiology. I’ll defer to his “expertise” on the subject.
Apologies, it’s just that in the last year, a lot of people have resorted to identifying their « expertise » (my damn phone doesn’t work right now) in the medical, economic, and political science fields in this thread as a means of stonewalling. I could just as easily say I have a house in Golden Oak, so I know about the ins and outs of poor taste, I mean wealth.
 

Prince-1

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Apologies, it’s just that in the last year, a lot of people have resorted to identifying their « expertise » (my damn phone doesn’t work right now) in the medical, economic, and political science fields in this thread as a means of stonewalling. I could just as easily say I have a house in Golden Oak, so I know about the ins and outs of poor taste, I mean wealth.

Oh no worries. I don’t discuss anything medical related on here. And it’s way more fun reading all the posts from people on here who became medical experts during the pandemic because they read lots of articles with big doctor words. 😉
 
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DisneyFan32

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
this potentially new India strain is the one that actually has me worried. I know their vaccination rate is low, but what's happening there is absolutely NUTS. Its reminiscent of china in the early days, but probably will get much worse.
Don't worry dude, US has best vaccines in the world than India. The vaccines in USA will take care of beat any new variants.
 

yonafunu

Member
this potentially new India strain is the one that actually has me worried. I know their vaccination rate is low, but what's happening there is absolutely NUTS. Its reminiscent of china in the early days, but probably will get much worse.
Israel already published a special note saying vaccines seems to work against this strain. Not a scientific paper but observations. We have to wait to see the real life results. Again there is more than 5500 strain and mutation (and counting) since one year, the vaccines (pzifer/moderna at least) work against all. AZ/JJ seems to work less. Don't panic folks, even if one is more contagious or more resistant to vaccine, a quick modification of the ARNm vaccines (few weeks..) and we are ready to go again. Be glad to be in a country with this level of science...it's just phenomenal the work accomplished in only one year :)
 

MrPromey

Well-Known Member
Oh, sweetie! (I say that with love). I can relate. As an eternally shy person, I don’t mind hiding behind a mask. Of course, my partner is like... stop. We knew it was bad when I started checking in the mirror before going out to see if a particular mask made me look fat. Seriously.

Well thank you! The slightly disturbing number of likes that post got has me wondering how many of you know me in real life now. ;)
 

Nubs70

Premium Member
Israel already published a special note saying vaccines seems to work against this strain. Not a scientific paper but observations. We have to wait to see the real life results. Again there is more than 5500 strain and mutation (and counting) since one year, the vaccines (pzifer/moderna at least) work against all. AZ/JJ seems to work less. Don't panic folks, even if one is more contagious or more resistant to vaccine, a quick modification of the ARNm vaccines (few weeks..) and we are ready to go again. Be glad to be in a country with this level of science...it's just phenomenal the work accomplished in only one year :)
And they say this is a naturally occurring virus.
 

DisneyCane

Well-Known Member
Florida seems to be going “all in” on the issue of banning vaccine passports. The EO isn’t worth the paper it’s written on, but the legislature is considering a bill prohibiting such passports. I believe Texas and Arizona are also considering bans. Going to be interesting if and when businesses get to the point of wanting them. Schools will be a particularly tricky matter.
Exactly. I don't believe the Governor has the authority for this to be done via EO (nor do I believe any of the COVID related EOs are actually legal under FL law). However, the legislature can pass a law to ban vaccine passports. Such a ban would not be unconstitutional at a State or Federal level.

It won't really be tricky if the legislature bans them. A business can want them but won't legally be allowed to require them at that point.
 

DisneyCane

Well-Known Member
For a good laugh, go back and read the last 10 pages (probably any 10), and replace the word “mask” with “pants” in every post. Remember to visualize while you do. ;)
First of all, pants aren't required by law. You just need to wear something that covers genitals. This has been a norm of human civilization for thousands of years and doesn't restrict a bodily function nor does it restrict nonverbal communication using facial expressions. A properly worn mask which might do something to limit viral spread does both of those.
 

DisneyCane

Well-Known Member
I’m no vaccine expert, but if a different strain did pose resistance to the current options, wouldn’t they be able to use the same technology to just create a new vaccine? I know it won’t be immediate, but shouldn’t it be much quicker if they do need to pivot?

“of a more contagious strain that causes more severe illness and appears to be resistant to antibodies.” Does this mean the vaccine, or covid related antibodies. They mean two very different things.

Yes, this is one of the great things about the MRNA vaccine, they can be quickly adapted to new variants. When they first started work on the coronavirus, once they had the genetic code of the virus, it only took a few days to develop the vaccine. The rest of the time was just testing.

We almost certainly would use the same tools, but with the lag time to develop, test, approve and manufacture the vaccine, we'd always need to play catch-up.

The mRNA vaccines represent the best option, because they can be retooled as soon as you know the complete structure of the new protein target.

The practical issue is that, whatever the acceptance rate ends up being for the vaccine, it will be lower for any future variant booster (or standard booster).
 

helenabear

Well-Known Member
Starting today anyone 60 or older can walk into any state-run vaccination site and be vaccinated on the spot. Hopefully people will take advantage of this. I bet that within a week or 2 the age will be lowered.
Some places here are doing this now though no age limit (except 16 or 18 per the FDA approvals). I think that will be helpful here too. Some just do not want to take the time to schedule.

Our pediatrician even is running Pfizer clinics. Impatiently waiting for 12-15 to be approved.
 

MansionButler84

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Apparently we are very close to 3 feet of social distance over 6 feet. The reasoning will be, once we reach 50% of Americans vaccinated (likely sometime in June), in a group of people spaced 3 feet apart, we would expect, on average, people susceptible to the virus will still be at least 6 feet apart.

Nice.

Thankfully, the only states with leaders who care about social distancing also have the highest vaccination rates and are already moving to adopt this rule change.

Here are states either above 50% or likely getting there in the next couple weeks:
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