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GoofGoof
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Disney announces opening Date for Boardwalk as July 2. Further evidence of a Summer ramp up some here said would not happen. Still waiting on the announcement for more entertainment and night shows coming back. I would hope that park and attraction capacity is going to expand to absorb all of these extra people....more to come
GoofGoof
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Yep, they will have to address by mid-June or July at the latest. Going to 3 foot distancing would help with queues and shows and allow the ride capacity to be returned to 100%.
Another reason to expect increases in capacity are who and how many people are being called back right now. I think the company wants to be as close to 100% as reasonable by the mid summer.
I’d LOVE to see this. Maybe it would rid some folks from the parks forever who would be #outraged. Talk about your #cancelculture!
Of course, I do worry about those with legitimate medical reasons for refusing the vaccine. But that’s a whole other discussion not worth having again.
Nubs70
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The presence of a furin cleavage site in a beta coronavirus does raise questions.
ABQ
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I just want the Flying Fish to reopen.
Apart from young age, for now, there are very few people who shouldn't get the vaccine due to health issues.
But there are a myriad of ways to resolve that simple issue - But would require a centralized vaccine passport system. For example, you could make some eligible for a passport if a doctor certifies that they are truly unable to get the vaccine AND every other member of their household is vaccinated.
DisneyFan32
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is new variants is very dangerous to get back to normal by July/summer?
Analysis: Hygiene theater, mask theater, climate theater
Americans have spent more than a year without live access to the performing arts, so maybe we can all be forgiven for engaging in a bit of theater.www.cnn.com
This is an interesting trend to follow. I was riveted by an NPR interview yesterday with frequent CNN guest Dr. Ashish Jha about whether masks outdoors are worth it.
Here's the key exchange between Jha and the interviewer, Mary Louise Kelly:
Kelly: There will be people listening to us who are screaming at their radios right now saying it's still spreading and the variants are out there and so far, most people aren't fully vaccinated. You shouldn't be having this conversation yet. What do you say to them?
Jha: I understand that, first of all. But it's really important to be able to have a nuanced discussion of what is safe and what is not. Because one of the problems is if we can't have that discussion, then some people will adhere to all the rules, even ones that are not necessarily very useful, and other people will just ignore all of them.
And right now, while cases are spreading, while the variants are out there and very contagious ones like B.1.1.7 [are] really dominant, I do want people to do things that are safe. And part of that is telling people, you know, what restrictions they can let go of. And so I think it's critically important that we keep indoor mask mandates in for a while. We can't give up on those, not while infection numbers are high. But it also means telling people what they can relax on. And wearing masks outside, again, unless you're in a very, very crowded space for extended periods of time, probably doesn't do much to protect you or protect others.
It raises questions in scholarly articles such as: Where did this come from?
It raises questions among conspiracy crazies such as: How can I use an unanswered question to justify my crazy xenophobic fantasies?
DisneyFan32
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Yup, we're doomed for vaccine hesitancy or anti vaccines people, because we will never get back to normal by July/summer or fall/winter this year...?The pause of JNJ may get lifted today but even if lifted, there will be very limited supply of JNJ for at least a couple more weeks, and potentially no significant supply of JNJ for several months.
White House writes off Johnson & Johnson vaccine after string of production failures
The chaos has disappointed the Biden team, which once argued that the company’s one-dose vaccine would be central to turning the tide of the pandemic.www.politico.com
The good news is that there is sufficient supply Pfizer and Moderna for all adults. The downside is that it is harder to use those vaccines for outreach to rural areas, mobile vaccination sites, etc, because of the more difficult storage and need for 2 shots. And I do believe there is a segment of the population specifically waiting on JNJ for another 1-shot vaccine because they don't want to do 2 shots.
Meanwhile, vaccine hesitancy is accelerating especially among some more rural communities:
US drop in vaccine demand has some places turning down doses
Demand for the coronavirus vaccine has fallen off in some places around the United States to the point where some counties are turning down new shipments of doses.apnews.com
I wouldn't be all doom and gloom. Just saying this could all slow down our progress. It makes the idea of "normal by July" less likely, though not impossible.
DisneyFan32
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possible normal by late summer/fall or winter?
HarperRose
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We went to a MLB game last weekend and honestly, it was the best game experience we've had. I'd choose to sit in the unvaccinated section (even though we're both fully vaccinated) just so we didn't have sweaty, drunk strangers pressed up against us and not having to stand up 10 times so someone can go get another drink. It was so nice having 6 feet between groups and the space in front and behind you empty.
1. I'm not going to get into any precise predictions
2. "normal" isn't just about Covid. Part of the old normal likely will never return. Some maybe due to permanent public health measures, but mostly just Disney changing their operations. We know EMH is never coming back. DME is gone forever. So what is "normal?" I do suspect by late summer OR fall OR winter, restaurant and resort capacity will have returned, masks will be gone (at least outdoors), and fireworks will be back. But will BATB ever return? Will something replace the Nemo show at AK? Will fastpasses return? I really have no idea, and it's not all about Covid.
GaBoy
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Because that's how a theme park makes money. Or double ticket prices and keep half the folks away.
edited... and I agree with what was quoted... My response sounded kind of snarky... unintentional. I just realize that they can't remain viable without crowds eventually returning.
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pixie225
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Just got a call from my sister-in-law. My nephew is on his high school golf team, and just got his first Pfizer Tuesday afternoon. Her son's school nurse just called and said someone on the team came down with covid yesterday. They were on the team bus together coming and going from a golf match on Monday. She said she was just letting the mom know, but not to worry, as the coach said they wear masks at all times - on bus and during the competition, so nurse said they don't have to quarantine. The mom kind of flipped out, cause she knows none of this is true. Kids have not been wearing masks on the bus, and definitely not while playing. There are only 6 on the team, so they sit on top of each other while on the bus, and play on top of each other. Kid has slight fever and swollen lymph nodes - probably from vaccine. (hoping). County playoffs are next week, and I can't believe the coach would lie about something like that so his kids can play.
DisneyFan32
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I bet WDW will lose masks by early 2022, besides WDW, I think the masks will be gone for rest of USA by late summer/fall, but there WILL be back to old normal as possible just most likely I guess...but can I may wear my mask during winter forever when masks are gone for good after the pandemic is over? is masks and social distancing may become permanent?
disneygeek90
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Better open up those shows and other entertainment options. There's no more room to fit more people.
There wasn't much question that WDW would increase attendance caps over the current 35% by summer. (I've long said I expect 40-50% by summer). Glad to see Boardwalk re-opening.
Don't hold your breath for much more entertainment, at least cast-dependent entertainment. They announced a "modified" FOTLK in January, they are rehearsing now, and they will launch the reduced/modified show in mid-May. So that's the pace of entertainment return. They wouldn't be spending months prepping a "reduced" show if they only planned to keep it around for a few weeks -- It seems certain the "reduced" FOTLK will run at least through the entire summer. Disney officially begins their summer season at the end of May, I'm not expecting any additional cast-dependent entertainment to return by then.
Now, it may be real concern about Covid. It may be Disney simply being cheap and trying to keep a lid on equity union hiring. And it also could be due to difficulties working with the equity union. (I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for some Epcot fireworks).
[ No auditions currently being held for any entertainment: https://jobs.disneycareers.com/auditions -- Suggesting nothing coming back imminently ]
Disney will announce quarterly results in a couple of weeks so Chapek is sure to discuss changes to operations and capacity. Will know more then.
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