Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Mouse Trap

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Canadian PM Trudeau, still in self-isolation due to his wife’s positive COVID-19 test result, admitted today that restrictions could last weeks or MONTHS.

I mean, we all KNEW it, but it’s sobering to hear a world leader come out and actually say it.

POTUS said yesterday restrictions could last until August worst case.
 

DisneyDebRob

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Beg to differ with you on the HIV issue read up on it--- a lot was being done once it was Identified There is always a lag time between identification and gearing up research and developing treatment strategies.
There is always a lag time between what you mentioned, that’s with everything. I’ve not only read up on it, and you just made me do a quick search of it again so thanks for that. I was in my mid twenties in the 80’s so also lived it and remember it well.
AIDS prevention, financing , education about it all were insufficient. Even the acknowledged scientific achievements came late.
Glad I did just go back and read about it, didn’t realize it was worse then I even thought.
 

tallica

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hopemax

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You're backpedaling and also twisting my words. I didn't say to quarantine. I didn't say people need to quit their jobs.

What those behind the podium (and I) have been saying is LIMIT YOUR EXPOSURE TO THOSE OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOUSEHOLD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

Jebus.

I have seen recommendations that it is okay to extend your family group, to include another family group (neighbor, your sister's family, etc). But everyone in the group needs to be limited in their movements. SIL is doing that in Seattle. Her BFF has a nanny normally, so she is is self-isolating with BFF.. Nanny is watching the kids while the parents are WFH. Everyone in that group is self-isolating from the rest of the world.

The larger the group gets, the harder it gets to control, because it requires a lot of trust. With the size of a sports team or several families in a neighborhood, does not inspire trust. Too many people are going to do "just one thing they shouldn't do" and people are going to get sick because of it. Being happy sports teams can still practice is not an example of proper social distancing. Random play dates are not proper social distancing. Two working families, rotating childcare days are not playdates. So that's why you are getting blowback.

That is different than medical workers and even grocery store workers who have to go to work and put their kids with someone, too. Yes, their risk is higher because their job makes them more high risk, but I hope these people are trying to stay within their chosen circles as much as they are able and not put their kids with a different person outside the circle every other day. So a group of nurses, or 3 people at the grocery store, who decide to share childcare, but are prohibiting their kids playing with the neighbor.
 
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ImperfectPixie

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I have seen recommendations that it is okay to extend your family group, to include another family group (neighbor, your sister's family, etc). But everyone in the group needs to be limited in their movements. SIL is doing that in Seattle. Her BFF has a nanny normally, so she is is self-isolating with BFF.. Nanny is watching the kids while the parents are WFH. Everyone in that group is self-isolating from the rest of the world.

The larger the group gets, the harder it gets to control, because it requires a lot of trust. With the size of a sports team or several families in a neighborhood, does not inspire trust. Too many people are going to do "just one thing they shouldn't do" and people are going to get sick because of it. Being happy sports teams can still practice is not an example of proper social distancing. Random play dates are not proper social distancing. Two working families, rotating childcare days are not playdates. So that's why you are getting blowback.

That is different than medical workers and even grocery store workers who have to go to work and put their kids with someone, too. Yes, their risk is higher because their job makes them more high risk, but I home these people are trying to stay within their chosen circles as much as they are able and not put their kids with a different person outside the circle every other day. So a group of nurses, or 3 people at the grocery store, who decide to share childcare, but are prohibiting their kids playing with the neighbor.
Pretty sure you meant to quote someone else, but you just said everything I've been trying to say, so thank you.
 

21stamps

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I have seen recommendations that it is okay to extend your family group, to include another family group (neighbor, your sister's family, etc). But everyone in the group needs to be limited in their movements. SIL is doing that in Seattle. Her BFF has a nanny normally, so she is is self-isolating with BFF.. Nanny is watching the kids while the parents are WFH. Everyone in that group is self-isolating from the rest of the world.

The larger the group gets, the harder it gets to control, because it requires a lot of trust. With the size of a sports team or several families in a neighborhood, does not inspire trust. Too many people are going to do "just one thing they shouldn't do" and people are going to get sick because of it. Being happy sports teams can still practice is not an example of proper social distancing. Random play dates are not proper social distancing. Two working families, rotating childcare days are not playdates. So that's why you are getting blowback.

That is different than medical workers and even grocery store workers who have to go to work and put their kids with someone, too. Yes, their risk is higher because their job makes them more high risk, but I home these people are trying to stay within their chosen circles as much as they are able and not put their kids with a different person outside the circle every other day. So a group of nurses, or 3 people at the grocery store, who decide to share childcare, but are prohibiting their kids playing with the neighbor.

You don’t think kids should play with their neighbor even outside?
 

ImperfectPixie

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Anyone seen the crowded beaches in Florida? Just saw a Clearwater beach, they looked like sardines. Spring break lives on I guess.
Yes, it's not from a very good source, so I won't link it here, but there's an article floating around about a spring break party happening against police orders.
 

hopemax

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You don’t think kids should play with their neighbor even outside?

Randomly, No. Because kids tackle each other, slobber over each other, pick their scabs to watch them bleed, etc. You are working, you get exposed, your kid gets it from you, your kid gives it the neighbor kid, neighbor kid's parent works in the hospital, hospital is infected. And all happening because transmission happened when everyone is asymtomatic.
 

Lilofan

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Randomly, No. Because kids tackle each other, slobber over each other, pick their scabs to watch them bleed, etc. You are working, you get exposed, your kid gets it from you, your kid gives it the neighbor kid, neighbor kid's parent works in the hospital, hospital is infected. And all happening because transmission happened when everyone is asymtomatic.
Bingo.
 

21stamps

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Randomly, No. Because kids tackle each other, slobber over each other, pick their scabs to watch them bleed, etc. You are working, you get exposed, your kid gets it from you, your kid gives it the neighbor kid, neighbor kid's parent works in the hospital, hospital is infected. And all happening because transmission happened when everyone is asymtomatic.

This is too extreme imo. I want to make a poll somewhere.. I really am curious of how many people are doing one or the other. Total isolation- or allowing neighbor play outside.
 
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