Based on what’s being said right now, I’ll feel safe going without a mask a couple of weeks after getting the second shot. But I’ll follow all laws/rules as to precautions out of consideration to others. When the masks are no longer required or just recommended, I’ll stop wearing them.
My point was it was not a narrow estimate.....
Because there were (and remain) many unknowns. You initially claimed that the estimates “were way off”, whereas you’re now saying they were too broad.
I explained why people would continue to wear masks, like you asked. I repeat: the vaccine will not work for everyone. We already know that. That has no relevancy to your personal willingness to follow the rules. I don't understand why you keep making it about that. It's not about you. It's about what the vaccine is and isn't. It's not an impenetrable shield. Do you disagree that some vaccinated will still get sick?
Yes. I believe the math. And I will not apologize for acknowledging the risks that still exist, even with as wonderful as a vaccine as this appears to be. Significantly less risk is not the same as zero risk.
What is your point, though? The vaccines are highly effective and should work to drastically reduce the virus. It’s true that some people will get sick despite being vaccinated. Are you saying that masks should be worn after the vaccine is available to all who want it and the number of cases comes down to a level where the government/businesses no longer require masks? If so, how long should that be? I’m talking about mandates. The option of wearing masks will always be available to those who don’t feel safe. There will never be zero risk.
As far as I've seen reported, not a single person in the trials (Pfizer and Moderna) who got the vaccine and still got COVID ended up hospitalized. If that remains true or even if it is true for 99% of the vaccinated who aren't protected from infection, you'd have something like 0.05% of people AT RISK of serious illness who have been vaccinated. At that point, the rest of society doesn't need to be protecting the at risk any more.
You really can't tell? You really think because I said, "Some may want to wait until virus circulation has actually dropped" that I am advocating for people to wear them after the drop? Why would anyone think that, except that they are trying to twist someone's words.
I don’t want to get into this discussion to much.. most of the things from both sides has been said.. but your last sentence says when masks are no longer required.. or just recommended.. you say you won’t wear one. There’s a huge difference between not longer needed and recommended. I’m thinking if they are still recommended then that would be science saying it’s still not safe for some or all? Just trying to figure out the distinction you are making comparing the two. They are hugely different.
Yes and no. I still go out with masks and sanitize and clean like I always have. I will continue to do so until numbers drop and it is safe to lighten up some. I'm well beyond the 2 weeks as well. Only thing I started doing was letting people know I was vaccinated if it makes them feel safer having me help them out in their home.
I won’t answer for the poster, but my opinion of your question is that they’ll be required/mandated or they won’t.
It will be "not safe for some or all" forever most likely when talking about COVID. At some point it will be mostly people who choose not to be vaccinated.
Yes, I do. But if someone appears to ask why someone else wouldn't feel that same level of relaxation, as you did in your response to Lilofan, they would be interested in an answer.Talk about twisting someone's words!
No one is questioning why we still have to wear masks right now. We are discussing after personally being vaccinated, we (some, not all) would feel more relaxed about not wearing a mask if allowed, but all the while understanding we still need to wear them.
Do you not understand the difference?
