Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I have changed my mind on things posted here.. once I do a deep dive into what someone said and researching it. It’s always good to keep a open mind. The problem is some are so dug into their belief of what’s is right and what should be done that makes for a lot of the frustration and back and forth here.
We all have opinions and that’s fine. The only things that should be pushed back on from people are blatant lies.. or alternative facts as they are being called now. That’s not good for anyone.

Agree...I change my mind a lot.

What I don’t change on are those that counter the obvious and disproven nonsense peddled by fools.

 

[SamusAranX]

Well medium high speed train will someday be connecting Disney world to the airport (MCO) and Miami and southern Florida. After that Tampa. Hopefully someday Cocoa/Port Canaveral for cruise line connection ( But current Brightline plans include no stops on the Space Coast/Brevard/Cocoa/Port Canaveral, the track/train just oasses through nonstop

Brightline which is privately funded

Which would be welcome. Florida desperately needs a public network

Agree...I change my mind a lot.

What I don’t change on are those that counter the obvious and disproven nonsense peddled by fools.

Hey, if I believe that the Animaniacs conspired with the Chinese gov’t, Keanu Reeves, and Oikos yogurt company to create and release covid to destroy the burgeoning dung beetle population, that’s my right.

 

[DCBaker]

Numbers are out - there were 108 new reported deaths, along with 3 Non-Florida Resident deaths.

 

[DCBaker]

Current vaccine report for Florida -

 

[jlhwdw]

Fear of appearing to “go backward” has probably kept lots of people from doing the right thing.

In my opinion, taking care of CMs is the smartest business decision Disney could make. It’s really expensive and risky to interview, hire, orient, and train new CMs, and their on-the-job experience is the most valuable thing they’ve got. I just wish the Company recognized that and behaved accordingly.

I actually agree with what you said here even though we've been on the opposite end of many issues. Fear of "going backward" is absolutely a major detriment right now, and by not wanting to roll back the reopening of many states and counties, we have actually gone backward .

That said, despite the overseas parks that reopened and closed, as we all know, the US is a different mindset. When the company opted to move forward with the July reopening despite the surge in numbers at the time, they essentially made the decision to open the floodgates and resume business. I still think it was and is the right move. Many on here disagree. But the reality of the business side of things is that once the company agreed to reopen Walt Disney World, that toothpaste was not going back in the tube.

As for your last three sentences. I wish those things were true pre-COVID, let alone now.

 

[Miss Bella]

That seems to happen a lot around here. At this point it’s mostly all been said on Covid itself. Some people think it’s no big deal, some think it is. Nobody is changing their mind.

On H1N1 90M+ Americans got the vaccine and when it was rolled out it was limited to high risk groups which were children, pregnant woman and the elderly along with front line healthcare workers. Children under 9 were recommended to get the nasal spray version which was later discontinued. By the time it was available to anyone who wanted it, it was already February and the flu season had passed so many people didn’t bother getting it. The majority of those 90M people vaccinated were in the high risk groups. None of this is my opinion, you can Google the H1N1 vaccine 2009 and find something very similar.

Yes it does happen a lot. We're all guilty of it, but some people are just not capable of admitting the interpreted something incorrectly.

 

[GoofGoof]

I actually agree with what you said here even though we've been on the opposite end of many issues. Fear of "going backward" is absolutely a major detriment right now, and by not wanting to roll back the reopening of many states and counties, we have actually gone backward .

That said, despite the overseas parks that reopened and closed, as we all know, the US is a different mindset. When the company opted to move forward with the July reopening despite the surge in numbers at the time, they essentially made the decision to open the floodgates and resume business. I still think it was and is the right move. Many on here disagree. But the reality of the business side of things is that once the company agreed to reopen Walt Disney World, that toothpaste was not going back in the tube.

As for your last three sentences. I wish those things were true pre-COVID, let alone now.

I don’t disagree that WDW was/is never going to fully close again unless mandated by the state of FL which won’t happen.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Hey, if I believe that the Animaniacs conspired with the Chinese gov’t, Keanu Reeves, and Oikos yogurt company to create and release covid to destroy the burgeoning dung beetle population, that’s my right.

Sure, blame me...

 

[GoofGoof]

Yes it does happen a lot. We're all guilty of it, but some people are just not capable of admitting the interpreted something incorrectly.

I’m wrong plenty of times. Ive also had people misinterpret what I have said on numerous occasions. Especially in a fast moving thread sometimes context of the statement is lost. I usually just try to recap the discussion to explain where my point is coming from, but ironically I’ve found a few people who take offense to that too. I just find it easier to catch people up that way, but you can‘t please all the people all the time.

 

[_caleb]

Yes it does happen a lot. We're all guilty of it, but some people are just not capable of admitting the interpreted something incorrectly.

Whenever I see anyone here admit that they were wrong/misunderstood, or rude or apologize for anything, I try to hit the “like” reaction button because I think these things help make the discussion healthier.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

If you think Covid is no big deal you aren’t going to change your actions or hurry to get a vaccine. It is what it is.

have we resigned ourselves to the notion that people can’t be educated anymore?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yes it does happen a lot. We're all guilty of it, but some people are just not capable of admitting the interpreted something incorrectly.

I agree...it happens a lot and admitting you’re wrong isn’t that tough. We all should do better.

My bad...mixed my “plagues”

Actually...H1N1 makes the point better than Ebola.

It didn’t really kill anyone.

Perfect example...i’m glad this guy admitted his mistake. I’m gonna watch the Steelers with him tonight and give him some of my beer as a show of appreciation

 

[correcaminos]

have we resigned ourselves to the notion that people can’t be educated anymore?

More of people on the internet don't listen to strangers. Talking about the trial online, I've only had one person change their attack demeanor towards me to truly interested to get real info. Most people are not willing to admit they were wrong or apologize. In turn I see those who do either often get ignored and the crazy continues. Internet discussions can be fun, but I also have made legit friends too so sometimes people can be pretty awesome

 

[GoofGoof]

have we resigned ourselves to the notion that people can’t be educated anymore?

I have on Covid itself. In the beginning I was the first person to try to post facts, statistics, articles...that supported statements. At this point if someone still doesn’t believe Covid is a big deal, still compares it to the flu or car accidents or whatever, still attempts to discredit the published stats on cases or death, they aren’t going to be educated and change their mind. People are dug in. I don’t think there are many people left without an opinion or who don’t already realize most of the information out there. I’m OK with others who still want to fight that battle.

My focus now has moved on to the current situation. Talk about vaccinations, talk about next steps after the vaccine rollout ramps up. There is still quite a bit of confusion and hesitancy with the vaccine itself. That’s a better thing to focus on educating people. I’m not a vaccine expert but there are medical professionals and people involved in the clinical trials here who know a lot more than me about the vaccines. There’s a lot of good information being shared I just hope that doesn‘t get buried behind pages of the same arguments we have been having since March.

 

[GoofGoof]

More of people on the internet don't listen to strangers. Talking about the trial online, I've only had one person change their attack demeanor towards me to truly interested to get real info. Most people are not willing to admit they were wrong or apologize. In turn I see those who do either often get ignored and the crazy continues. Internet discussions can be fun, but I also have made legit friends too so sometimes people can be pretty awesome

When you present your opinion and position on things and someone disagrees with you there‘s a good chance you won‘t change their minds but who knows how many other people read that exchange and gained valuable information. Especially on things like the vaccine. Someone may be disagreeing with you and may never get the vaccine themselves but you may have made several other people more comfortable about getting it and maybe moved them from the not sure camp to the going to get it camp. The point of discussions isn’t to make people change their mind, but it’s a good ancillary benefit sometimes.

 

[Miss Bella]

I have on Covid itself. In the beginning I was the first person to try to post facts, statistics, articles...that supported statements. At this point if someone still doesn’t believe Covid is a big deal, still compares it to the flu or car accidents or whatever, still attempts to discredit the published stats on cases or death, they aren’t going to be educated and change their mind. People are dug in. I don’t think there are many people left without an opinion or who don’t already realize most of the information out there. I’m OK with others who still want to fight that battle.

My focus now has moved on to the current situation. Talk about vaccinations, talk about next steps after the vaccine rollout ramps up. There is still quite a bit of confusion and hesitancy with the vaccine itself. That’s a better thing to focus on educating people. I’m not a vaccine expert but there are medical professionals and people involved in the clinical trials here who know a lot more than me about the vaccines. There’s a lot of good information being shared I just hope that doesn‘t get buried behind pages of the same arguments we have been having since March.

Your are one of the few people on here that only attacks the message and not the messenger. That is commendable and what we should all strive for.

 

[DCBaker]

"Orlando Health is expanding its COVID-19 vaccinations to include patients ages 65 and older and moving its vaccine sites from inside hospitals to six community sites, the hospital system announced on Sunday.

Orlando Health will begin offering the Moderna vaccine to seniors on Monday but because supply of the vaccine is limited, scheduling information will be sent directly to those eligible through a randomization process.

Appointments will be set on a first come, first served basis, the hospital system said.
The Moderna vaccine requires two doses spaced four weeks apart. After scheduling the first dose, patients will be emailed a link to schedule their second dose."

To increase the availability of vaccines, Orlando Health is moving its vaccination sites out of its hospitals to six community sites beginning on Monday. Eligible people can make an appointment for their first vaccine dose at any of these locations:

1. Orlando Health Emergency Room – Lake Mary, 380 Rinehart Rd., Lake Mary, Florida 32746
2. Orlando Health Medical Pavilion – Summerport, 5151 Winter Garden Vineland Rd., Windermere, Florida 34787
3. Orlando Health – Health Central Park – Winter Garden, 411 N. Dillard St., Winter Garden, Florida 34787
4. Orlando Health Medical Pavilion – St. Cloud, 1330 Budinger Ave., St. Cloud, Florida 34769
5. Orlando Health Heart & Vascular Institute – Downtown Orlando, 1222 S. Orange Ave., Orlando, Florida 32806
6. Orlando Health South Lake Hospital Emergency Room – Blue Cedar, 22316 US Highway 27, Leesburg, Florida 34748
   

Orlando Health expands COVID-19 vaccine program to patients 65 and older

Orlando Health is expanding its COVID-19 vaccinations to include patients ages 65 and older and moving its vaccine sites from inside hospitals to six community sites, the hospital system announced …

www.orlandosentinel.com

 

[Polkadotdress]

Current vaccine report for Florida -

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25 K vaccinated yesterday is pretty low...

I don’t understand the conflicting reports: that the demand is outweighing the supply of vaccine here in FL and conversely FL has only used about 30% of what it has received? That fact can be found here:

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[Sirwalterraleigh]

25 K vaccinated yesterday is pretty low...

I don’t understand the conflicting reports: that the demand is outweighing the supply of vaccine here in FL and conversely FL has only used about 30% of what it has received? That fact can be found here:

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What would have given you the impression that all of the sudden the management in the state of dreams was going to become “good”?

There are undoubtedly tons of effective workers all over the state...and some that are feckless/hopeless due to their own crap or low IQ...

Too many of the latter...it appears. Not an uncommon problem.

 

[Kevin_W]

25 K vaccinated yesterday is pretty low...

I don’t understand the conflicting reports: that the demand is outweighing the supply of vaccine here in FL and conversely FL has only used about 30% of what it has received? That fact can be found here:

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Ohio did 2k on Saturday, and will be close to 0 today. We take weekends off up here. Argh.