Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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sullyinMT

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I don’t think the vaccination rollout is actually that bad in the US. A bit of a free for all and uncoordinated... but anecdotally a heck of a lot of you are seemingly vaccinated out of proportion to what is anecdotally happening here.

I’m hoping to ‘weasel’ my way into a vaccine at the end of January In Canada... I’m working in four different health regions in two provinces over the next few months. Three of which I’ve been coded as providing “ICU” coverage. Yet only one region do I barely qualify. I really don’t personally need the vaccine first, but just for context that I do not really qualify yet.

That’s not a complaint, I largely agree that the preferential targeting of LTC and First Nations is a good thing. But the US is getting a heck of lot more in people’s arms right now.
Thanks for the international perspective. Plus, this proposal actually made it to our legislature’s floor (however tongue in cheek), so it’s good to know what my potentially new government is doing:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-montana-canada-1-trillion-column/2864029002/
 

sullyinMT

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When I first read your intentions post vaccine effectiveness I felt that your attitude was selfish and irresponsible. However I resisted the urge to respond in that manner immediately! Having thought carefully about your perspective I am now beginning to understand and even agree with your perspective.
My worry is that you will be open to criticism for your behaviour, which would indeed be unfair. I am wondering if when you have completed the vaccinations and waited the 2-3 weeks to ensure maximum effectiveness you (everybody) could be issued with a lanyard/ badge or equivalent so that everyone knows that you are “safe”. This would then have the additional impact of potentially encouraging other people to be vaccinated. Then others in your situation could avoid some of the social distancing for instance and be visible proof of the benefit of vaccines!
I realise this would be very hard to enforce and check but it would be great to have physical evidence!
Anyway enjoy your outings and stay safe!
Those of us injected don’t need a lanyard or other outward expression. They can scan the chip in our shoulder 🙃
 

DisneyCane

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One thing concerning is part of the report you didn't post. There is a section where it shows how many series are complete and how many people are overdue. As of today's report, 2,361 people have not gotten the second shot that they were due for. 24,200 completed the series. This means that close to 10% have not gotten the second shot on time and this is for the very early vaccinations which should be the people most in tune with the protocol. That doesn't bode well for the general public recipients which are upcoming.
 

JoeCamel

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One thing concerning is part of the report you didn't post. There is a section where it shows how many series are complete and how many people are overdue. As of today's report, 2,361 people have not gotten the second shot that they were due for. 24,200 completed the series. This means that close to 10% have not gotten the second shot on time and this is for the very early vaccinations which should be the people most in tune with the protocol. That doesn't bode well for the general public recipients which are upcoming.
Some of those could be due to deaths. We started with the infirm and elderly so some may have passed before the second dose - or it could be a reporting lag.
 

sullyinMT

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One thing concerning is part of the report you didn't post. There is a section where it shows how many series are complete and how many people are overdue. As of today's report, 2,361 people have not gotten the second shot that they were due for. 24,200 completed the series. This means that close to 10% have not gotten the second shot on time and this is for the very early vaccinations which should be the people most in tune with the protocol. That doesn't bode well for the general public recipients which are upcoming.
Could be concerning, we’ll see. I’m not sure what the reporting requirements are for “in time” completion. For example, when scheduling my second dose, I was given a +/- window of dates. Technically I was two days late, but in the window. Maybe some of the 2400 people were waiting for today just in case they had a “robust” response to their second dose. That way they could wait out the doldrums over the weekend.

Assuming they get their second dose, having a percentage get it late could potentially lower the effectiveness in the real world outside of tight study protocols. All the more reason to get to as many people as possible as soon as possible.
 

Disney Experience

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Could be concerning, we’ll see. I’m not sure what the reporting requirements are for “in time” completion. For example, when scheduling my second dose, I was given a +/- window of dates. Technically I was two days late, but in the window. Maybe some of the 2400 people were waiting for today just in case they had a “robust” response to their second dose. That way they could wait out the doldrums over the weekend.

Assuming they get their second dose, having a percentage get it late could potentially lower the effectiveness in the real world outside of tight study protocols. All the more reason to get to as many people as possible as soon as possible.
Yes in the study there was a window for second shot. It may be different for Moderna vs Pfizer. I got my second dose of Pfizer the day my wife got her first dose of Moderna. I was given a window of a number of days to get the second shot, so I made sure our visits were on the same day and hours [but for different studies]. I was then able to juggle her second shot and my post second shot visit to be the same day about a month later.
 

Disney Experience

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The estimated cost was $5-8 billion dollars

They got $500,000,000 earmarked 10 months ago...

(Numbers sure are a B...aren’t they?)
I agree and those estimates were known for sometime and compared to all of the other covid19 expenses should have been funded. Relative to the total Covid costs to this country it would not have been a significant cost for the country as a whole.

From October:
 
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