Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Heppenheimer]

I was told when first seeing my doctor that I would not be allowed to get a vaccine until post birth. I assume this would be how all medical professionals are advising pregnant patients.

I haven't seen anything to specifically exclude pregnancy, but medical judgement would probably go against using it for now.

 

[lazyboy97o]

So a person who has every vaccine except the Covid because they feel it’s too “new” is anti-vaxxer? Because I know a lot of people who have every vaccine known to man but have decided to wait and see

I didn’t say anything about how many vaccines one gets or limit the context only to the COVID-19 vaccines. Just getting vaccines doesn’t mean one is not an anti-vaxxer. If you are applauding and encouraging people who spread misinformation like:

• We don’t know the long term effects even of long administered vaccines
• Companies and the FDA suppress information on ingredients, efficacy and negative outcomes
• The flu shot is a useless scam to make money
• The development process was rushed to skip critical safety steps
• Greatly exaggerating negative outcomes of all vaccines
• (And the coup de grâce) We don’t really know if vaccines cause autism

Then yes, you are an anti-vaxxer. Getting vaccinated does not preclude one from being an anti-vaxxer as many are unwilling to act on a variety of beliefs that are considered taboo, especially when there are hurdles involved.

 

[Miss Bella]

So a person who has every vaccine except the Covid because they feel it’s too “new” is anti-vaxxer? Because I know a lot of people who have every vaccine known to man but have decided to wait and see

My kids are fully vaccinated so are my two dogs. I'm pretty sure I'm fully vaccinated at least my titers are positive for the important stuff. Most people that skip out on the flu shot still have had every other vaccine known to man and their kids are fully vaccinated.

How are we defining an anti-vaxxer these days? Maybe the term is used just to slap a label on somebody.... see if you can get a rise out of them.

 

[Touchdown]

I was told when first seeing my doctor that I would not be allowed to get a vaccine until post birth. I assume this would be how all medical professionals are advising pregnant patients.

ACOG (the American College of Obstetricians and Gynocology) has come out and said that any women who wishes to be vaccinated while pregnant should be able to. That is huge because this body is extremely conservative and usually recommends pregnant women avoid anything they do not have scientific proof is safe for mom and fetus.

They feel that there is enough evidence that shows it unlikely to cause harm and combined with the clear danger to pregnant mothers of Covid (much higher mortality) they feel each women can make their own choice. When studies come out in a few months that show it’s safe for baby (which again all evidence points to so far) it will become fully recommended.

 

[SamusAranX]

I didn’t say anything about how many vaccines one gets or limit the context only to the COVID-19 vaccines. Just getting vaccines doesn’t mean one is not an anti-vaxxer. If you are applauding and encouraging people who spread misinformation like:

• We don’t know the long term effects even of long administered vaccines
• Companies and the FDA suppress information on ingredients, efficacy and negative outcomes
• The flu shot is a useless scam to make money
• The development process was rushed to skip critical safety steps
• Greatly exaggerating negative outcomes of all vaccines
• (And the coup de grâce) We don’t really know if vaccines cause autism

Then yes, you are an anti-vaxxer. Getting vaccinated does not preclude one from being an anti-vaxxer as many are unwilling to act on a variety of beliefs that are considered taboo, especially when there are hurdles involved.

I haven’t heard any of those reasons, so you’re chasing a red herring my guy. People simply are skeptical of something new is all. As the months pass and things go well, they will take the vaccine by all probabilities

 

[lazyboy97o]

I haven’t heard any of those reasons, so you’re chasing a red herring my guy. People simply are skeptical of something new is all. As the months pass and things go well, they will take the vaccine by all probabilities

All of those have been posted in this very thread and some of the others. They’re not all still up but they were posted, applauded and defended.

 

[Miss Bella]

I haven’t heard any of those reasons, so you’re chasing a red herring my guy. People simply are skeptical of something new is all. As the months pass and things go well, they will take the vaccine by all probabilities

I think he is fixated on the poster who said those things. I haven't heard any of those reasons in the real world. People just aren't that well thought out. They just go with their gut feeling.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I think he is fixated on the poster who said those things. I haven't heard any of those reasons in the real world. People just aren't that well thought out. They just go with their gut feeling.

Been more than one person.

 

[Miss Bella]

Been more than one person.

So what. This forum doesn't represent the greater population. There's only like a dozen people that post on this thread. Why get yourself worked up over it. It's a Disney Forum for God's sake.

 

[Chi84]

I went back and read from Christmas Eve to Tuesday. I actually hadn’t posted those days and I didn’t see any anti vaccine posts. I came in after the fact. A poster wanted someone banned for being an Anti-Vaxer. I defended that person not because I support that, but because I don’t think people should be banned, bullied or harassed for not going along with majority. Mostly because I’m usually on the receiving end of it.

Chi84 commented on the emoji. I agreed with her. These emojis are used all the time to mock people. It finally took something egregious for the mods to finally say something.

Like I said did not see the posts nor the offending emoji. Yet for some reason I seem to be associated with it.

Actually, I posted that I didn't give a rat's behind how people used emojis, only to learn that someone had used one to laugh at the death of another poster's family member. Just when you think you've seen everything.

 

[lazyboy97o]

So what. This forum doesn't represent the greater population. There's only like a dozen people that post on this thread. Why get yourself worked up over it. It's a Disney Forum for God's sake.

What does this have do with anything?

 

[Miss Bella]

Actually, I posted that I didn't give a rat's behind how people used emojis, only to learn that someone had used one to laugh at the death of another poster's family member. Just when you think you've seen everything.

Yes and I agreed with that. I don't know what happened. I think the posts were removed. Was the poster being bullied to the point where they made a really bad decision to lash out? On this forum anything is possible. You have to have really thick skin and self control to post in this forum.

 

[drew81]

Anyone see this?

 

[Miss Bella]

What does this have do with anything?

I get that you're really passionate about the covid vaccine and I commend that. I think everyone should have a passion, but you know some people are just going to disagree or not be comfortable with it. Calling them anti-vaxxers or lobbing insults isn't going to help your cause. It's going to hurt it.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I get that you're really passionate about the covid vaccine and I commend that. I think everyone should have a passion, but you know some people are just going to disagree or not be comfortable with it. Calling them anti-vaxxers or lobbing insults isn't going to help your cause. It's going to hurt it.

Again, I’m not just referencing the COVID vaccines as questioning of all vaccines has been brought up in support of being against the COVID vaccines. If you support anti-vaxxer positions or applaud those promulgating them then yes, you are an anti-vaxxer no matter how much you claim otherwise. Just like how people who applaud and share claims of groups of people secretly engaging in illegal activity are spreading conspiracy theories, even if they say they’re not.

 

[seabreezept813]

ACOG (the American College of Obstetricians and Gynocology) has come out and said that any women who wishes to be vaccinated while pregnant should be able to. That is huge because this body is extremely conservative and usually recommends pregnant women avoid anything they do not have scientific proof is safe for mom and fetus.

They feel that there is enough evidence that shows it unlikely to cause harm and combined with the clear danger to pregnant mothers of Covid (much higher mortality) they feel each women can make their own choice. When studies come out in a few months that show it’s safe for baby (which again all evidence points to so far) it will become fully recommended.

Interesting. I would imagine doctors would be conflicted recommending it when it hasn’t been tested on pregnant women yet.

 

[Miss Bella]

Again, I’m not just referencing the COVID vaccines as questioning of all vaccines has been brought up in support of being against the COVID vaccines. If you support anti-vaxxer positions or applaud those promulgating them then yes, you are an anti-vaxxer no matter how much you claim otherwise. Just like how people who applaud and share claims of groups of people secretly engaging in illegal activity are spreading conspiracy theories, even if they say they’re not.

Again I haven't seen anybody on this forum applauding or promoting anti- vaccine theories, or people spreading conspiracy theories. Applauding groups of people engaging in illegal activity spreading conspiracy theories? Huh?????? there is nothing illegal about spreading conspiracy theories or being against vaccines for that matter. Were not China.

 

[BrianLo]

Anyone see this?
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Back to my regularly scheduled pessimism. Incredibly disappointing and not surprising that the US hasn’t even managed to find the variant in a returned traveler anywhere. It’s beyond too late to be contained.

The contact tracing breakdown (or a failure to start) is a disaster.

As Martin keeps saying there is a real possibility the worst is yet to come, unfortunately at the finish line.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Again I haven't seen anybody on this forum applauding or promoting anti- vaccine theories, or people spreading conspiracy theories. Applauding groups of people engaging in illegal activity spreading conspiracy theories? Huh?????? there is nothing illegal about spreading conspiracy theories or being against vaccines for that matter. Were not China.

What you have seen is rather meaningless. There have been plenty of anti-vaxxer claims posted. If you haven’t seen any posts claiming that only 6% of COVID deaths are real deaths or that doctors are misattributing deaths to COVID, both of which are descriptions of group secretly engaging in illegal activity the definition of a conspiracy, then you really don’t pay attention.

 

[Bullseye1967]

You have poor reading comprehension. I never said anything close to the idea that spreading conspiracy theories are illegal.

What you have seen is rather meaningless. There have been plenty of anti-vaxxer claims posted. If you haven’t seen any posts claiming that only 6% of COVID deaths are real deaths or that doctors are misattributing deaths to COVID, both of which are descriptions of group secretly engaging in illegal activity the definition of a conspiracy, then you really don’t pay attention.

Just out of curiosity what illegal activity are these secret groups engaged in? You totally lost me.