It is possible in times of stress and depression some find solace in food and drink and other things. I know some who deal with it with a lot of take out.
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Miss Bella
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Maybe when the general public starts getting it. People don't like to be shamed, guilted, or told what to do. The more you do that the more pushback you'll get. That would be my advice.
GoofGoof
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The allergy risk is real. That’s a situation where even the FDA and the manufacturers are saying approach with caution. They aren’t saying don’t get the vaccine unless you have a known alergy to one of the ingredients but they are recommending you wait after getting it to make sure there isn’t a reaction. I think they should at a minimum require anyone with a history of allergic reactions to get the vaccine at a real medical center with doctors on hand vs a CVS or Walgreens just in case. No clue if that’s the actual plan.
I could definitely see someone who already had Covid waiting. They are most likely naturally immune so no huge rush to get the vaccine. I‘d probably still get it though once it was readily available just to be safe.
What if your bio-father is right? Not about the vaccine being poison, but the alien stuff. It could explain a lot of things
GoofGoof
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Hopefully around April if all goes well. You still might get it before me
Disney Experience
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U.S. Department of Defense Awards Moderna $1.97 Billion COVID-19 Vaccine Contract
The U.S. Department of Defense awarded Moderna a contract worth $1,966,598,000 for an additional 100 million doses of its COVID-19 vaccine.
www.biospace.com
JoeCamel
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Can't do the takeout but......
JoeCamel
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OK, we covered, let's get them admistered.So US now has 300 million doses on order of Moderna.U.S. Department of Defense Awards Moderna $1.97 Billion COVID-19 Vaccine Contract
The U.S. Department of Defense awarded Moderna a contract worth $1,966,598,000 for an additional 100 million doses of its COVID-19 vaccine.
Disney Experience
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Almost covered.
300 million doses is 150 million civilians/military. (Moderna)
200 million doses is 100 million civilians/military. (PFizer) (Some will be delivered after June)
Total: 250 million people vaccinated by end of June, which is less than total US population(331 million), but more than the adult population (209 million).
"The top official overseeing the distribution of Florida’s supply of COVID-19 vaccinations said Wednesday he wants to see the doses distributed much faster and acknowledged the rocky roll-out of county programs to inoculate seniors as well as a federal program to give the shots to nursing home residents.
Jared Moskowitz said in an interview with the Sentinel that the state has directed distribution of about 700,000 dosages of the cocktail, but only about a quarter of those, or 175,000 have been used so far.
“That tells me there are vaccines sitting in freezers … we want all of our partners to know it’s their jobs to get the vaccine out there,” said Moskowitz, director of the state Division of Emergency Management. “Sites that are getting shots in arms are going to get rewarded with more vaccine."
Moskowitz said he knows some seniors are befuddled by systems to sign-up for the vaccine that vary widely from county to county — some with appointment booking sites or phone lines that crashed and others that are asking seniors age 65 and older to simply get in line without an appointment and wait their turn, potentially for hours.
“I know people are frustrated, and I know this is the light at the end of the tunnel and they want to get there as soon as possible,” he said. “I know the systems set up aren’t meeting the moment.”
Some counties have blamed the problems on Gov. Ron DeSantis’ decision last week to prioritize people older than 65 ahead of essential workers like those who drive buses or work in grocery stores. That prompted a hasty launch of each county’s plan to vaccinate the general population."
"Moskowitz said planning on the state level is complicated by limited information from the federal government about how much Florida will receive and when.
“The federal government has not done a good job of getting us a long-term vision of how much vaccine we’ll be getting. We’re getting a week-to-week look,” he said. “I don’t have good visibility, and neither does any state, on when that second shot is coming.”
DeSantis said Wednesday that he expected more supply to be on the way after New Year’s and said the needed second doses of both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines will arrive in time to be administered in the required 21- or 28-day window. A news release issued by the governor’s office on Tuesday night indicated many of those second doses are already being distributed by the state.
Moskowitz also questioned the efficacy so far of a federal contract between the Trump Administration and national pharmacies CVS and Walgreens to vaccinate residents and staff at nursing homes and long-term care facilities across the nation.
He said the companies have given out about 20,000 shots in Florida so far, according to information he was provided. Florida has at least 70,000 residents in nursing facilities, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. He said he did not receive reports on where those doses were administered."
“So far, to be quite honest, I think the federal contract on the long-term-care facilities has been a mediocre experience,” Moskowitz said. “If the federal contract is not getting the job done, the state will step in and finish skilled-nursing and long-term care facilities.”
www.orlandosentinel.com
Jared Moskowitz said in an interview with the Sentinel that the state has directed distribution of about 700,000 dosages of the cocktail, but only about a quarter of those, or 175,000 have been used so far.
“That tells me there are vaccines sitting in freezers … we want all of our partners to know it’s their jobs to get the vaccine out there,” said Moskowitz, director of the state Division of Emergency Management. “Sites that are getting shots in arms are going to get rewarded with more vaccine."
Moskowitz said he knows some seniors are befuddled by systems to sign-up for the vaccine that vary widely from county to county — some with appointment booking sites or phone lines that crashed and others that are asking seniors age 65 and older to simply get in line without an appointment and wait their turn, potentially for hours.
“I know people are frustrated, and I know this is the light at the end of the tunnel and they want to get there as soon as possible,” he said. “I know the systems set up aren’t meeting the moment.”
Some counties have blamed the problems on Gov. Ron DeSantis’ decision last week to prioritize people older than 65 ahead of essential workers like those who drive buses or work in grocery stores. That prompted a hasty launch of each county’s plan to vaccinate the general population."
"Moskowitz said planning on the state level is complicated by limited information from the federal government about how much Florida will receive and when.
“The federal government has not done a good job of getting us a long-term vision of how much vaccine we’ll be getting. We’re getting a week-to-week look,” he said. “I don’t have good visibility, and neither does any state, on when that second shot is coming.”
DeSantis said Wednesday that he expected more supply to be on the way after New Year’s and said the needed second doses of both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines will arrive in time to be administered in the required 21- or 28-day window. A news release issued by the governor’s office on Tuesday night indicated many of those second doses are already being distributed by the state.
Moskowitz also questioned the efficacy so far of a federal contract between the Trump Administration and national pharmacies CVS and Walgreens to vaccinate residents and staff at nursing homes and long-term care facilities across the nation.
He said the companies have given out about 20,000 shots in Florida so far, according to information he was provided. Florida has at least 70,000 residents in nursing facilities, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. He said he did not receive reports on where those doses were administered."
“So far, to be quite honest, I think the federal contract on the long-term-care facilities has been a mediocre experience,” Moskowitz said. “If the federal contract is not getting the job done, the state will step in and finish skilled-nursing and long-term care facilities.”
Florida Emergency Director Jared Moskowitz says early vaccine systems aren’t ‘meeting the moment’
The top official overseeing the distribution of Florida’s supply of COVID-19 vaccinations said Wednesday he wants to see the doses distributed much faster and acknowledged the rocky roll-out …
www.orlandosentinel.com
danlb_2000
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Miss Bella
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Yes possibly. A lot of my co-workers have already had Covid. I do need to get another antibody test.Hopefully around April if all goes well. You still might get it before me
In my mind, there's three types of restaurants.
1-Ones that primary sell food. Like the sandwich shop. Lots of places fit this model, all the quick serve type places. Take out should be easy for this group. They already did it, and the dining room experience wasn’t the attraction.
2-Experience dinning. Something upscale, with fancy tables. The entire experience is the attraction, not just the food. Places people think of for special occasions. It’s a harder transition for this group. We’ve been ordering from some now and then, and we got three holiday meals from places like this. Transitioning the experience to take out requires extra effort and creativity. Disney fits in here somewhere.
3-Places that make all their money on alcohol sales (restaurant not bar). They sell food, but it’s priced to attract business, not the profit center. These places make most profit on the beer, drinks, wine purchased with meals. The corner pub. They were not making money on the meal, but on the drinks that went with it. New to go drinks helps some, but I’m sure the volume isn’t there. This group is definitely struggling. They don’t have the fancy food to fall back on and have to compete with the first group more directly now. Their entire business model is in chaos. I love our local pubs, but we definitely haven’t used them as much as the other categories. They’re harder to order from than the first group and the food isn’t as fancy as the second.
Disney Experience
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One advantage of getting vaccinated under the Phase 3 study is that the sites try real hard to not mess up since results are critical to the client Pharmaceutical.
The true effectiveness of the vaccine in the population as a whole may be a little lower. Such as one of the first health-worker getting vaccinated, except the plunger was already "plunged". It was noted only because of the video.[They got another shot once it was discovered]. But I am sure that human error will cause a minor decrease in effectivity in the deployed vaccine vs the study.
kfoxtv.com
The true effectiveness of the vaccine in the population as a whole may be a little lower. Such as one of the first health-worker getting vaccinated, except the plunger was already "plunged". It was noted only because of the video.[They got another shot once it was discovered]. But I am sure that human error will cause a minor decrease in effectivity in the deployed vaccine vs the study.
Video shows mishap during COVID-19 vaccination of El Paso nurses
A mishap took place while a University of Medical Center nurse was vaccinated for COVID-19 Tuesday. While watching the footage of the first five nurses receiving the vaccine, KFOX14 noticed a discrepancy when the second nurse went to be vaccinated. Take a closer look at the video footage a...
kfoxtv.com
Disney Experience
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Calculate your risk of being a fatality from covid-19.
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DisneyDebRob
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Agreed. Number one on the list is the easiest to configure to get caught up with sales from before this all hit. Number 2 can also do it with a little more work but can be done. We also got a holiday meal from one and our New Years meal will be from another. We were going to cook but decided to give them as much business as possible. Maybe if more did the same it could make it easier on them. I get the ambience and atmosphere is a big part of it but when it comes down to it that doesn’t pay the bills. Get the people to order from them and it could work out.
Number 3 is the problem because of the nature of the business. Huge groups of people huddled together with no masks. Don’t think there is a answer for that from a indoor stand point right now. Nice weather areas maybe outdoor separated tables.. keep up the To Go drinks that a lot of places are doing.. and get them help from the government until this blows over a bit.
Disney Experience
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The following story at first sounds like a Disney employee in Southern California jumped the line in getting vaccinated. But as the story is developed there is a good chance they got Pfizer vaccines that were already thawed and left over from vaccinated health workers. Better someone gets the vaccine than throwing the vaccine away. Whether that was the case in this case is not disclosed but given in the article as a possible reason, if not the likely reason.
www.redlandsdailyfacts.com
One positive of this story is that it again shows that demand is there. Now whether the rich or connected will game the system and get the "leftover shots" is to be seen. But I rather see people trying to get vaccinated than see people being dragged in to be vaccinated(Which will not happen).
Disney employee brags relative helped her obtain COVID-19 vaccine meant for health workers
Redlands Community Hospital acknowledges several extra doses of Pfizer vaccine that became available were given to non-frontline health care workers.
www.redlandsdailyfacts.com
One positive of this story is that it again shows that demand is there. Now whether the rich or connected will game the system and get the "leftover shots" is to be seen. But I rather see people trying to get vaccinated than see people being dragged in to be vaccinated(Which will not happen).
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Shaming and guilting can be good. Without making cigarettes illegal, social pressure has significantly brought down smoking.
Sorry, you can't smoke in here. Go outside in the bad weather and smoke.
Sorry, you can't work here without a vaccine. Go start an Etsy business from your home and you can live your vaccine-free life on your own terms.
GoofGoof
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It’s not so bad here. There are literally thousands of members of this site, the vast majority of who never post a word in this or any of the few “satellite” Covid threads. Even out of the people posting here there are really only a handful I think you probably have a real problem with unless you just don’t want to hear anything from anyone that disagrees with your point of view, then it’s probably quite a bit more. It’s unfair to label the whole site as needing to be salvaged based on this thread. Just my opinion, and you are obviously free to disagree.
Miss Bella
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It certainly is a lot different than most Disney forums. I see the same posters on every thread telling people they are selfish for going to WDW.
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