Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Kevin_W]

I actually took the new saliva Covid test this week. Had a bit of a cold (I was negative), but with some symptoms and a free testing site 5 minutes from my house it seemed the prudent thing to do. The test was quite easy (<10 minutes to fill out the paperwork and take the test) and nothing up the nose.

 

[Disney Experience]

Vaccine distribution -

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The numbers you quoted are just Florida numbers right?

See How Vaccinations Are Going in Your County and State (Published 2022)

See where doses have gone, and who is eligible for a shot in each state.

www.nytimes.com

 

[DCBaker]

Those are just Florida numbers right?

Correct.

 

[Disney Experience]

Someone in NYC had anaphylaxis taking the Pfizer shot.

One NYC Healthcare Worker out of 30,000 has Severe Reaction to COVID Vaccine | Boro Park 24

boropark24.com

The Flu vaccine has a 1.35 cases per million doses.(https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26452420/)

A few days ago the Dr. Thomas Clark of ACIP COVID-19 Vaccines Work Group provided some slides in respect to the cases of anaphylaxis after people received a Covid vaccine:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2020-12/slides-12-19/05-COVID-CLARK.pdf

December 18*, 2020 – CDC has identified 6 case reports of anaphylaxis following Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine meeting Brighton Collaboration criteria for anaphylaxis – Cases were Brighton Collaboration levels 1 or 2 – Additional case reports have been reviewed and determined not anaphylaxis

December 19** – 272,001 doses of vaccine have been administered

So it is happening statistically much more than with the flu shot. (i.e. Covid Analphylaxis is 22.05 per million).

I would still say to most people I know, get vaccinated, but then follow CDC guidelines for post vaccination observation: (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/pfizer/anaphylaxis-management.html)

CDC currently recommends that persons who receive a Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine be observed after vaccination for the following time periods:

• Persons with a history of anaphylaxis (due to any cause): 30 minutes
• All other persons: 15 minutes

People have not died from the reaction and all recovered, people die from having Covid. The problem will be getting low risk younger population vaccinated when they hear the stories of reactions.

Americans have 1-in-1,000 chance of dying from COVID-19 in next 6 months, expert says

Americans have a 1 in 1,000 chance of dying of COVID-19 in the next six months, a Stanford University health expert said Thursday at a Federal Drug Administration hearing.

nypost.com

I am sure in time the statistics will become more clear as more people are vaccinated. The rate of Anaphylaxis after Covid vaccination is about 1 in 45000; so the Phase 3 study would likely not have caught this even if certain groups were not excluded from the study.

 

[DCBaker]

 

[JoeCamel]

Woah! Dr. Ron just jumped me to the front of the line, where do I go to get the Moderna? Or is that like Modello makers of Corona?

 

[GoofGoof]

The numbers you quoted are just Florida numbers right?

See How Vaccinations Are Going in Your County and State (Published 2022)

See where doses have gone, and who is eligible for a shot in each state.

www.nytimes.com

The US number of people vaccinated jumped to 1,008,025 as of this morning. There are also over 8M additional doses distributed and ready to be used.

 

[Kevin_W]

The US number of people vaccinated jumped to 1,008,025 as of this morning. There are also over 8M additional doses distributed and ready to be used.

Nice. Ohio only vaccinated 1300 people yesterday - I hope that number jumped today. no idea why we're being so slow compared to other states.

 

[GoofGoof]

Nice. Ohio only vaccinated 1300 people yesterday - I hope that number jumped today. no idea why we're being so slow compared to other states.

It could be reporting delays. Even that CDC number is likely higher by now as the note at the bottom of the page says the administered number gets reported by a healthcare provider to the state 72 hours after vaccination.

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

 

[techgeek]

Did anyone tell Ron that Florida has about four and a half million 65+ residents (about 20% of the population)? That’s going to be one big ‘first phase’.

 

[JoeCamel]

Did anyone tell Ron that Florida has about four and a half million 65+ residents (about 20% of the population)? That’s going to be one big ‘first phase’.

Yeah but I can beat anyone on a walker so I'm not concerned. I'll get mine

 

[DCBaker]

 

[drew81]

My feelings exactly

https://www.insider.com/why-i-regret-disney-world-family-trip-in-pandemic-2020-12

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[GoofGoof]

My feelings exactly

https://www.insider.com/why-i-regret-disney-world-family-trip-in-pandemic-2020-12

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Interesting read. Seems to line up with a lot of the observations posted here too. Increased capacity has resulted in longer lines and less distancing. Not a great combo for guest satisfaction but I guess Disney has to do what they can to make ends meet.

 

[Kevin_W]

It could be reporting delays. Even that CDC number is likely higher by now as the note at the bottom of the page says the administered number gets reported by a healthcare provider to the state 72 hours after vaccination.

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

There is a 1-day delay in reporting, but it is still slow. There were a few articles on the subject: of the initial doses they only sent some to hospitals, the rest were reserved for nursing homes, who couldn't start giving the shots until 12/21 or 12/28 depending on which vaccine. I understand the reasoning, but I would have made a different choice in their shoes.

 

[correcaminos]

Nice. Ohio only vaccinated 1300 people yesterday - I hope that number jumped today. no idea why we're being so slow compared to other states.

Surprising to hear. All of my friends who work at hospitals and with ltc have already been vaccinated here. I got the vibe it was going rather quickly and just haven't read news. Last health care worker friend got theirs just now.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Surprising to hear. All of my friends who work at hospitals and with ltc have already been vaccinated here. I got the vibe it was going rather quickly and just haven't read news. Last health care worker friend got theirs just now.

Reporting delay, perhaps?

 

[correcaminos]

Reporting delay, perhaps?

Maybe. None of my friends work in the same place either which I know is totally anecdotal evidence, but since I cannot find numbers online (other than what was to delivered and when) this was surprising.

 

[Miss Bella]

...something in this thread we fully agree on

I actually think there’s probably a lot we agree on...just not covid stuff

I think you'd also have to leave politics, religion and our basic ideology off the list, but yes it's not that hard to find common ground with people on some things.

 

[correcaminos]

An interesting add, my one friend who got theirs today was Moderna's in central Ohio.

Another interesting add, a college suitemate of mine is in another state. Works in surgical portions of the hospital. They were telling me a doctor at their hospital was in a trial. Reported joint and muscle pain after shot, but no other symptoms (no arm pain really which is what my friend are reporting who were vaccinated this past week)and swore had the real deal from the joint and muscle pain. Nope, placebo. In short some reported side effects have to be either normal body aches and pain or psychosomatic. I wasn't about to use muscle & joint pain, or fatigue, or headache as a legit side effect as those can be caused by other things.