Chi84
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Yes. I believe emergency rooms can't turn anyone away. If you try to go to a regular doctor without health insurance or the ability to pay, you will get turned away. Quickly.
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TrainsOfDisney
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That’s part of the problem... people go to the emergency room for non-emergencies.
Sometimes that’s also because nowhere else is open. My last visit to the e-room was on a Sunday evening, all the walk-ins around me close at 5 on Sunday so I had no choice unless I wanted to wait overnight which didn’t seem like a wise idea.
Miss Bella
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Well your only supposed to go the hospital for emergency care, but a lot of people like to use it as a doctors office. That’s kind of stopped this year because of Covid.
"A federal court has rejected Broward County’s curfew on bars and restaurants, raising the possibility that nightclubs in much of Florida could operate through the night as COVID-19 rages.
The court specifically cited Gov. Ron DeSantis’ order in September that removed all restrictions on bars and restaurants as the state moved to Phase 3 of the coronavirus recovery.
Broward County’s rules, prohibiting the sale or alcohol between midnight and 5 a.m., violate the governor’s order and are “speculative and arbitrary,” wrote U.S. Judge Raag Singhal of the Southern District of Florida."
Jonathan Noah Schwartz, co-attorney for the restaurants, said the ruling was a victory for the economy.
“We’re pleased — not because we’re not concerned with COVID — but because of the governor’s order, he prioritized our citizens’ right to work. Residents who work in the food and nightlife industry — many of them who work mostly off of tips — are going to be able to go back to work.”
www.sun-sentinel.com
The court specifically cited Gov. Ron DeSantis’ order in September that removed all restrictions on bars and restaurants as the state moved to Phase 3 of the coronavirus recovery.
Broward County’s rules, prohibiting the sale or alcohol between midnight and 5 a.m., violate the governor’s order and are “speculative and arbitrary,” wrote U.S. Judge Raag Singhal of the Southern District of Florida."
Jonathan Noah Schwartz, co-attorney for the restaurants, said the ruling was a victory for the economy.
“We’re pleased — not because we’re not concerned with COVID — but because of the governor’s order, he prioritized our citizens’ right to work. Residents who work in the food and nightlife industry — many of them who work mostly off of tips — are going to be able to go back to work.”
Judge opens the door to late-night bars at a time when COVID-19 is raging
A federal court has rejected Broward County’s curfew on bars and restaurants, raising the possibility that nightclubs in much of Florida could operate through the night as COVID-19 rages. The…
www.sun-sentinel.com
lazyboy97o
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Emergency rooms can turn people away. EMTALA requires them to evaluate you and if you have an emergency medical condition they must stabilize you before transferring or discharging, but it is not this blanket requirement to provide care. Of course how much they treat may well be reduced if any place has to implement crisis standards.
Heppenheimer
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And it isn't free. They can't refuse to evaluate anyone who shows up, but that person will still receive a bill if they get taken back beyond the waiting room.
DisneyDebRob
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Why not, we have a vaccine."A federal court has rejected Broward County’s curfew on bars and restaurants, raising the possibility that nightclubs in much of Florida could operate through the night as COVID-19 rages.
The court specifically cited Gov. Ron DeSantis’ order in September that removed all restrictions on bars and restaurants as the state moved to Phase 3 of the coronavirus recovery.
Broward County’s rules, prohibiting the sale or alcohol between midnight and 5 a.m., violate the governor’s order and are “speculative and arbitrary,” wrote U.S. Judge Raag Singhal of the Southern District of Florida."
Jonathan Noah Schwartz, co-attorney for the restaurants, said the ruling was a victory for the economy.
“We’re pleased — not because we’re not concerned with COVID — but because of the governor’s order, he prioritized our citizens’ right to work. Residents who work in the food and nightlife industry — many of them who work mostly off of tips — are going to be able to go back to work.”
Judge opens the door to late-night bars at a time when COVID-19 is raging
A federal court has rejected Broward County’s curfew on bars and restaurants, raising the possibility that nightclubs in much of Florida could operate through the night as COVID-19 rages. The…
bryanfze55
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But if that person is unable to pay, it’s just passed on to other consumers that can pay.
The problem in this country isn’t insurance. Insurance is driven by the cost of the healthcare itself, which is sickeningly high. Part of the issue with Obamacare, well intended as it may have been, was it just tackled insurance. It did not address the actual cost of healthcare. And I’m not sure many politicians are willing to touch that.
Miss Bella
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It’s free if you don’t pay the bill.
JoeCamel
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True that, I like it but I was told it was a way to control healthcare costs - it is not. Just a handout to the insurance companies
Chi84
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That was my understanding too.
Vegas Disney Fan
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Call me an optimist but I’m hoping self accountability will also play a big part in who gets the vaccine and when, healthy people who can socially distance (even if elderly) will hopefully wait to get the vaccine so those with higher risks can get it first. Just because the government says a certain group “can” get the vaccine doesn’t mean they have to. I won’t be getting the vaccine until it’s readily available, not because I don’t want it but because I’m currently furloughed, young(ish), and don’t interact with many people so its not a huge risk for me, my friends, or family.
DisneyCane
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I think the biggest issue will be getting people back for the second shot, especially if they have a reaction to the first one. It won't be a problem for the first set of people but I fear it will be for the general population.
correcaminos
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There's white as in generic caucasian and then there is white non-hispanic/latino. Most of the US refers white to be the latter as did I. I don't need to be hipanic-splained if you read anything beyond your quote. When cops pull you over, you aren't white - not here at least. If you got offended over my use of white in that manner I apologize, but admittedly that's being pedantic. My own Latino boy has redhair but he isn't flat out just a white (as in not hispanic or whatever) kid either and we know it. He knows it. He will never be afforded the same luxuries any white (again not latino) kid in his class has. Granted his features keep him separate (olive skin, flat nose, eye shape, cheek bones etc) more than some.
It is a fact that there is a big distrust of medicine in the Latino as well as Black and Native populations (yes we all know there are crossovers of each) due to how white non-hispanic/latino medicine treats said groups in history with Blacks being treated in truly horrific ways.
GoofGoof
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I am leaving it up to the government to decide. When I’m eligible to get it I’ll go. I’m not waiting longer than I have to. I don’t think it will matter by then for me anyway, but for someone like my FIL who is 75+ and retired, I’m telling him to still go as soon as he can get it even though he’s not working anymore and healthy.
Like candy bars at the grocery store.
Figgy1
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Bellevue sent my sister an ER bill even though all they did was take her temperature. I came and took her to Columbia, not the brightest thing after a car accident but it was several hours before I got there
correcaminos
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I think this is how we need to do it. If your group is called, get it asap. No waiting. I say this as someone who would be low on the list to get it if I had a placebo given to me. I want all who can to get it asap even if it means I wait until spring to find my status and possibly get the shot
Disney Experience
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Concerning the various vaccines not being studied in the US, but will be distributed around the world, another Chinese vaccine completed a Phase 3 trial in the UAE. Though the first article is not very clear on what data is being publicly released. For Example: while it says,
www.middleeasteye.net
it also says:
Covid-19: UAE rolling out Chinese vaccine to all citizens and residents
Emirates was one of three Arab countries that began vaccinating last week, along with Saudi Arabia and Bahrain
www.middleeasteye.net
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Disney Experience
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Concerning the rare allergic reactions that have occurred: (Not trying to frighten, just providing information). The allergic reaction is still quite rare compared to covid.
www.sciencemag.org
Science | AAAS
www.sciencemag.org
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