Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Sirwalterraleigh

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There seem to be some inconsistencies about whether health agencies should hold back supply for second doses or give out what they have with the expectation of the follow-ups arriving in subsequent weeks. It sounds like Florida might be taking the latter approach. That's what our local agency was instructed to do also - and they've been on top of things the entire time. Getting a larger number of people some level of protection sooner seems reasonable to me.

That’s completely stupid...

You don’t “cut it down”...what is this? Narcos??

No...you give it as indicated. This is yet another frankly $&!!$&! Political angle from the state. Give less to more people, throw open more bars and tourist traps...and claim victory because you’re DESPERATE for tourist tax revenue and you screwed it up all year.

I’m sorry...I don’t want to be so political. But the truth has to start having is day.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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Its important to get the second does within a certain timeframe, otherwise the 1st dose becomes ineffective. If Pfizer can't keep up to produce enough to give everyone that second dose, that's trouble.

Common sense...

Seriously, bazzle...do you honestly think there’s any room for “interpretation”? This is a stupid as every other stupid thing from “officials”
We’ve seen this year...

Why not just do one dose and then take a Clorox booster?

...it could work???
 

easyrowrdw

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That’s completely stupid...

You don’t “cut it down”...what is this? Narcos??

No...you give it as indicated. This is yet about frankly $&!!$&! Political angle from the state. Give less to more people, throw open more bars and tourist traps...and claim victory because you’re DESPERATE for tourist tax revenue and you screwed it up all year.
Who's cutting it down? Doc in charge of the vaccine rollout at our largest hospital system was asked if they were holding back doses for the second shots. The answer was no, that the second doses would be arriving in subsequent shipments. If that's what they're doing in Florida, then I see no issue with it. You don't need the second doses on hand today, you need them in a few weeks. Just-in-time.
 

oceanbreeze77

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Who's cutting it down? Doc in charge of the vaccine rollout at our largest hospital system was asked if they were holding back doses for the second shots. The answer was no, that the second doses would be arriving in subsequent shipments. If that's what they're doing in Florida, then I see no issue with it. You don't need the second doses on hand today, you need them in a few weeks. Just-in-time.
desantis is talking about just needing 1 dose across the board.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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Who's cutting it down? Doc in charge of the vaccine rollout at our largest hospital system was asked if they were holding back doses for the second shots. The answer was no, that the second doses would be arriving in subsequent shipments. If that's what they're doing in Florida, then I see no issue with it. You don't need the second doses on hand today, you need them in a few weeks. Just-in-time.

desantis is talking about just needing 1 dose across the board.

Anyone trusting this clown is just not running enough juice through the brain.

Sadly. Yes, that's on Pfizer. They've made commitments to provide more doses. If they fail to meet that commitment, then it's a huge problem.

That’s why you don’t do it.

Youre correct on how distribution is going to work, but desantis is talking about just needing 1 dose across the board. If he gives those second doses to new people that's really bad.

Because he’s a complete clown.

This is what the concept of “recall” is all about. The raid was enough for me, however.
 

easyrowrdw

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desantis is talking about just needing 1 dose across the board.
The commentary in the article says that, but the quote doesn't.

“Just get as many doses out there,” the Governor said during a mental-health roundtable in Tampa on Friday. “I’m not sure that Pfizer would agree or FDA would agree, but I think just the point is, getting that first does out really does make a difference, and I think you’ll see that.”

In fact, he refers to it as the first dose. (I assume that's supposed to say dose and the website just did shoddy copy-editing.) The preface about FDA not agreeing is what gives me pause, though. It's not clear what they might not agree with. I said, "it sounds like," as it mirrored what I'd read in other places.
Youre correct on how distribution is going to work, but desantis is talking about just needing 1 dose across the board. If he gives those second doses to new people that's really bad.
Agreed.
 
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easyrowrdw

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Well, let’s hope ‘just-in-time’ distribution works out better in this case then it did with the toilet paper...
Indeed. At least demand is fixed in this instance. Individuals aren't going to be stocking up on vaccines. Well, maybe hypochondriacs will. Haha
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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The commentary in the article says that, but the quote doesn't.

“Just get as many doses out there,” the Governor said during a mental-health roundtable in Tampa on Friday. “I’m not sure that Pfizer would agree or FDA would agree, but I think just the point is, getting that first does out really does make a difference, and I think you’ll see that.”

In fact, he refers to it as the first dose. (I assume that's supposed to say dose and the website just did shoddy copy-editing.) The preface about FDA not agreeing is what gives me pause, though. It's not clear what they might not agree with. I said, "it sounds like," as it mirrored what I'd read in other places.

Agreed.

It’s not a situation where “casting the net”
Is going to make a difference in the early phases of the process. Ron continues to say what he feels like (gee...where’d that come from? 🙄 ) and delude himself...why is this based in common sense all of a sudden?

2021 is lost due to the sheer size of the problem here...and all the numbers are gonna go off the charts for the next 4 months if people don’t shut up and do the mitigation. Not interested in anyone’s “opinions”...they had their shot and clanked it. Spreading out the doses in Florida will mean nothing...especially to Florida for their purposes here.
 

oceanbreeze77

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The commentary in the article says that, but the quote doesn't.

“Just get as many doses out there,” the Governor said during a mental-health roundtable in Tampa on Friday. “I’m not sure that Pfizer would agree or FDA would agree, but I think just the point is, getting that first does out really does make a difference, and I think you’ll see that.”

In fact, he refers to it as the first dose. (I assume that's supposed to say dose and the website just did shoddy copy-editing.) The preface about FDA not agreeing is what gives me pause, though. It's not clear what they might not agree with. I said, "it sounds like," as it mirrored what I'd read in other places.

Agreed.
I see that quote as "get everyone the first dose, then WAYYY later on get them the second...if they want it...as a booster shot."
 

oceanbreeze77

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It’s not a situation where “casting the net”
Is going to make a difference in the early phases of the process. Ron continues to say what he feels like (gee...where’d that come from? 🙄 ) and delude himself...why is this based in common sense all of a sudden?

2021 is lost due to the sheer size of the problem here...and all the numbers are gonna go off the charts for the next 4 months if people don’t shut up and do the mitigation. Not interested in anyone’s “opinions”...they had their shot and clanked it. Spreading out the doses in Florida will mean nothing...especially to Florida for their purposes here.
I already expected 2021 to be pretty much another lost year. Even with the vaccine, by the time enough get the shots, it will still be a while, and we will still be living with many, not all, but many of the mitigation efforts at least until next fall.
 

Parker in NYC

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Me on the latest from DeSantis...

i love lucy GIF


Hopefully, the vaccine tastes just like candy!
 

Figgy1

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Anyone trusting this clown is just not running enough juice through the brain.



That’s why you don’t do it.



Because he’s a complete clown.

This is what the concept of “recall” is all about. The raid was enough for me, however.
I'm thinking our '22 vacation will be the '20 postponed se PA, Baltimore, DC, ne Va road trip
 

GoofGoof

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The commentary in the article says that, but the quote doesn't.

“Just get as many doses out there,” the Governor said during a mental-health roundtable in Tampa on Friday. “I’m not sure that Pfizer would agree or FDA would agree, but I think just the point is, getting that first does out really does make a difference, and I think you’ll see that.”

In fact, he refers to it as the first dose. (I assume that's supposed to say dose and the website just did shoddy copy-editing.) The preface about FDA not agreeing is what gives me pause, though. It's not clear what they might not agree with. I said, "it sounds like," as it mirrored what I'd read in other places.

Agreed.
I read that as him saying he thinks just getting the first dose is enough. Really frightening stuff. I would hope that the hospitals and medical professionals involved in administering the vaccinations would not follow that even if he says he wants to do that. It’s also going to cause a certain percent of the people to not show up for the second dose since the Governor is saying 1 dose is enough to make the difference. If that’s not what he meant by those comments he needs to get out there now and say what he really meant.
 

sbunit

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I already expected 2021 to be pretty much another lost year. Even with the vaccine, by the time enough get the shots, it will still be a while, and we will still be living with many, not all, but many of the mitigation efforts at least until next fall.
I agree that the first half of 2021 is pretty much shot. I do however feel the midsummer portion of the year we will start seeing real change and loosening of mitigation efforts. Come fall 2021 I think we are back to the full normal. So I don't think it's fair to say 2021 is totally shot, let's start living with some real optimism, we can sure use some now with this year finally coming to a close.
 
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