Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Lilofan]

It seems to be too much to ask people to (1) take something seriously and (2) avoid panic.

I’d hate to see today’s Americans try to handle WWI, the Great Depression, or WWII. Too many feelings might be hurt.

People can't even fathom or could handle when people didn't survive without AC like my first car and apt.

 

[seascape]

It seems to be too much to ask people to (1) take something seriously and (2) avoid panic.

I’d hate to see today’s Americans try to handle WWI, the Great Depression, or WWII. Too many feelings might be hurt.

How true. Just listen to people say the government owes them and has to take care of them. There is no longer personal responsibility. We need to start taking care of ourselves not demand more and more be taken from others.

 

[Parker in NYC]

How true. Just listen to people say the government owes them and has to take care of them. There is no longer personal responsibility. We need to start taking care of ourselves not demand more and more be taken from others.

Oh for the love of Rolly Crump. If 9 months later, people like you are still crying about a lack of personal responsibility and a lack of self-care, do you magically think it's all going to come back because you are still shaking your fists at lightning and professing your fear of the socialism boogeyman? Thank goodness a vaccine(s) is on the way because the government does owe us and they abandoned us. The President ignored and gaslit and held rallies mocking people for wearing masks. The President sets the example and he failed us. The government does owe us. That's the truth.

(see, @Sirwalterraleigh, there's my exit)

 

[MisterPenguin]

The President lost, DeSantis no longer has a horse in the denial race. So what's his deal?

It's all about the base. And the base's ability to re-elect.

 

[SoFloMagic]

The President lost, DeSantis no longer has a horse in the denial race. So what's his deal?

I don't agree with him much, but he seems like a smart guy. I think he genuinely believes that the democrats want to shut down the world and kill off small businesses. So in his mind, the antithesis of that must be the road forward.

The proper answer is likely somewhere in between. Covid is scary but we don't need to be afraid of it. We need to respect it and take proper precautions.

I swear there's room for Republicans to be the party of masks and distancing but keeping businesses open - label the dems as the lockdown party and the Republicans as the smart precautions party. But instead they go with this nonsense...

 

[SoFloMagic]

It's all about the base. And the base's ability to re-elect.

It's not a long-term play. Or maybe it's a long term play on disfunction being a lasting element to the political discourse. I mean more than normal anyway

 

[SoFloMagic]

Well just canceled my January vacation,3rd time changing plans. It just looks horrible in the parks with the crowds, for me anyway. Call me scared if you want, but it’s not for me. Sure hope Trumps right and we all get injected in a few weeks, maybe I’ll reschedule.

Good decision. Everyone needs to make decisions they can live with. And also literally live through. The parks will still be here and theres light at the end of the tunnel on covid. It's just a dark ing tunnel. Flower and garden is nice and the vaccine may be available by then...

 

[correcaminos]

Was the actual injection extremely cold and, if so, did it cause discomfort while being injected? That's the first thing I thought of when I heard how cold the vaccine needed to be kept in shipment.

It's warmed before injection. Felt no different than the flu shot.

Yes my temperature rise was only to 100.3, really mild. I checked for the same reason you did. I am surprised that our reactions to the second shot was greater than yours, since we are much older than you. But different people react differently. I never have a reaction to the flu shot. I got my latest flu shot after the honeymoon. My wife actually had her second Moderna shot in the middle of the honeymoon [After we left the Grand Floridian, but before we left for the Grand Hotel in Mackinac Island]. We made sure we would not be travelling the day after the second shot for her. She got her flu shot just a short time ago.

We both had Typhoid Fever vaccination early August, and had zero side effects. Same with Cholera, Hepa/HepB[Twinx], and Shingrix.
So I had not expected I would get side effects on the Covid vaccine but I did. I think the only time I ever had a vaccine reaction [and it was very mild] was on a tetanus shot. Well I did have a reaction in bootcamp at Age 17 when they loaded us up with vaccines. While standing at rest the chief noticed I turned white as a sheet, and I noticed I got very dizzy. Then again sometime after that (still in bootcamp) I came down with pneumonia, so might be a coincidence of when I was vaccinated then. I would discount the blisters[using a nice word for it] of the smallpox vaccine, since that was the reaction to that vaccine everyone had.

I'm really not one who gets side effects from shots outside of arms though. As I explained I deal with chronic pain so I cannot measure body aches. I just deal with it most days of my life. I also have never felt chills from fevers. I get cold quickly and feel chilly there but not with fevers. I've also never recorded a fever higher than 99.9 in my life so maybe that has something to do with it. A 100 would be huge for me as I run 97.

My 2nd shot was worse than the first but nothing horrible. Again a super sore arm was my worst. Since I deal with chronic pain I push past that kind of thing often.

 

[danlb_2000]

How true. Just listen to people say the government owes them and has to take care of them. There is no longer personal responsibility. We need to start taking care of ourselves not demand more and more be taken from others.

So do you think the government should not be paying for the vaccine, and instead it should only go to people who can afford to pay for it?

 

[correcaminos]

I don't agree with him much, but he seems like a smart guy. I think he genuinely believes that the democrats want to shut down the world and kill off small businesses. So in his mind, the antithesis of that must be the road forward.

The proper answer is likely somewhere in between. Covid is scary but we don't need to be afraid of it. We need to respect it and take proper precautions.

I swear there's room for Republicans to be the party of masks and distancing but keeping businesses open - label the dems as the lockdown party and the Republicans as the smart precautions party. But instead they go with this nonsense...

Look to Ohio for why this is false. The very Republican gov. is now being labeled as a socialist and people are ignoring him left and right. All after jerks protested Dr. Acton on her own family property. She quit for a reason. Republican leaders will try, the lack of direction from a federal level has made individuals selfish and cruel.

This is my last political post and tbh why I no longer read this thread much. But I wanted to point out the backlash of republican voters when Republican govt tries to do as you say.

 

[hopemax]

How true. Just listen to people say the government owes them and has to take care of them. There is no longer personal responsibility. We need to start taking care of ourselves not demand more and more be taken from others.

Yeah, we are doing the those that failed to heed history are doomed to repeat it. We are fully in the need to relive the Articles of Confederation, we don't need no stinking government phase.

We should be thankful this pandemic's IFR is lower than what originally was feared, because I'm pretty sure that it could be as bad as measles, small pox, or the Plague and people would still be reacting the exact same way. No government rules, no government assistance, jobs are more important that people's lives, those who die obviously didn't take care of themselves, and absolutely no masks!

 

[maxairmike]

I don't agree with him much, but he seems like a smart guy. I think he genuinely believes that the democrats want to shut down the world and kill off small businesses. So in his mind, the antithesis of that must be the road forward.

The proper answer is likely somewhere in between. Covid is scary but we don't need to be afraid of it. We need to respect it and take proper precautions.

I swear there's room for Republicans to be the party of masks and distancing but keeping businesses open - label the dems as the lockdown party and the Republicans as the smart precautions party. But instead they go with this nonsense...

I lost any remaining respect and thought that he was smart after he (or someone in his administration) recently hired someone absolutely unqualified to be a data analyst around COVID. That someone has 0 actual data analysis background and was in fact a (poorly thought of) sports blogger before this and is notorious for spouting conspiracy theories during the last year. That he could be involved in any way, shape, or form in policy and decisions around not just COVID but anything in the state is...the opposite of smart.

I wish reasonable, common sense regulations could be used, but thanks to many people in various leadership positions, there are too many Americans that will refuse to listen to anything that could help get this back under some semblance of control.

 

[MAGICFLOP]

Oh for the love of Rolly Crump. If 9 months later, people like you are still crying about a lack of personal responsibility and a lack of self-care, do you magically think it's all going to come back because you are still shaking your fists at lightning and professing your fear of the socialism boogeyman? Thank goodness a vaccine(s) is on the way because the government does owe us and they abandoned us. The President ignored and gaslit and held rallies mocking people for wearing masks. The President sets the example and he failed us. The government does owe us. That's the truth.

(see, @Sirwalterraleigh, there's my exit)

Lol, you are so smart... unfortunately the world is unfair and the smart ones never see the bullet coming...

 

[SoFloMagic]

Look to Ohio for why this is false. The very Republican gov. is now being labeled as a socialist and people are ignoring him left and right. All after jerks protested Dr. Acton on her own family property. She quit for a reason. Republican leaders will try, the lack of direction from a federal level has made individuals selfish and cruel.

This is my last political post and tbh why I no longer read this thread much. But I wanted to point out the backlash of republican voters when Republican govt tries to do as you say.

OK, that's fair. Maybe I'm expecting too much from people

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Redirect Notice

I assume it’s to start his search for a new career?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It's all about the base. And the base's ability to re-elect.

Bingo...two fish for you!!

 

[networkpro]

Oh for the love of Rolly Crump. If 9 months later, people like you are still crying about a lack of personal responsibility and a lack of self-care, do you magically think it's all going to come back because you are still shaking your fists at lightning and professing your fear of the socialism boogeyman? Thank goodness a vaccine(s) is on the way because the government does owe us and they abandoned us. The President ignored and gaslit and held rallies mocking people for wearing masks. The President sets the example and he failed us. The government does owe us. That's the truth.

(see, @Sirwalterraleigh, there's my exit)

Any country that has significant exposure to international trade and travel has faired about the same no matter what program they've followed. Viruses don't listen to the news, aren't swayed by public opinion, don't follow arbitrary rules, don't belong to political parties, and don't participate in economies.

Unless individuals/countries are completely self-sufficient they have to interact with others to continue long term.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Look to Ohio for why this is false. The very Republican gov. is now being labeled as a socialist and people are ignoring him left and right. All after jerks protested Dr. Acton on her own family property. She quit for a reason. Republican leaders will try, the lack of direction from a federal level has made individuals selfish and cruel.

This is my last political post and tbh why I no longer read this thread much. But I wanted to point out the backlash of republican voters when Republican govt tries to do as you say.

Yes. Excellent point. But we get back to square one with the underlying reason...and it has nothing to do with party

Lol, you are so smart... unfortunately the world is unfair and the smart ones never see the bullet coming...

Probably because they’re unarmed.

OK, that's fair. Maybe I'm expecting too much from people

A common, but understandable mistake

 

[DCBaker]

 

[Heppenheimer]

Look to Ohio for why this is false. The very Republican gov. is now being labeled as a socialist and people are ignoring him left and right. All after jerks protested Dr. Acton on her own family property. She quit for a reason. Republican leaders will try, the lack of direction from a federal level has made individuals selfish and cruel.

This is my last political post and tbh why I no longer read this thread much. But I wanted to point out the backlash of republican voters when Republican govt tries to do as you say.

Our Republican governor in Vermont has been praised for his efforts and he was easily re-elected. But then again, there isn't much of a MAGA crowd up here to pander to.