Heppenheimer
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Beyond the state park, though, most of the rest of Niagara Falls NY is almost third world. The parks that line the falls and the gorge on the Canadian side are also generally much better maintained.
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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion
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Figgy1
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Is it just me or do I see a whole lot of bad coming down the pike?
SamusAranX
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For Florida? As far as overall case numbers I don’t see it getting much worse, because no one gives a crap here in Florida. Once everything reopened, it was inevitable that cases would go up. So we’re already approaching levels of summer, and it will probably plateau. Basically, we’re almost at rock bottom.
but more deaths and hospitalizations are coming, with the lag on those. Brace yourself
Chip Chipperson
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Which side was Superman on when he saved that kid who fell over the railing? That's clearly the best side.
GoofGoof
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The view of the falls and the visitor center are better and they had a pretty solid parking and transport plan. I liked the parks themselves, especially off the beaten path. Could I live without the tacky restaurants, arcades and adult book stores? Probably, but I just ignored that stuff mostly.
GoofGoof
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That’s the Canadian side with the better views of the horseshoe falls which is the bigger section.
GoofGoof
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Let me rephrase it then, you can require a vaccine, but you can’t physically make someone get it. You can reward them for doing it or punish with fines or I guess jail time for not getting it if they passed that law, but some people just won’t do it anyway. We are better off focusing on the 85-90% of people not in that bucket and make sure they all get it, then we hit herd immunity anyway.
GoofGoof
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I hope things don’t get too much worse, but remember that this summer when cases spiked they eventually plateaued and then dropped but that was only after restrictions were added, bars were closed, indoor dining was further restricted. If there is no pull back this time around will the cases plateau? I don’t think we will get to that point to find out. If the cases go to the levels of July I don’t think there’s any choice but a pull back in activity. If the governor won’t do it maybe it falls on local government. When hospitals start reaching capacity people have to act.
GoofGoof
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Too little, too late? I hope not:
www.yahoo.com
Crushed by COVID-19, rural red states finally start to mandate masks. It may be too little, too late.
Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds finally issued a mask mandate in response to the state's alarming COVID-19 spread rate. Unfortunately, it's probably too late.
SamusAranX
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Slightly off topic; I am hearing some masks are better then others.
I know some on here work in the medical field; could you point me to links for the best kind of masks out there, that maybe you’ve purchased? Besides N95. I want the most effective I can for my flights in January. You don’t need to post here, you can private message me.
I know some on here work in the medical field; could you point me to links for the best kind of masks out there, that maybe you’ve purchased? Besides N95. I want the most effective I can for my flights in January. You don’t need to post here, you can private message me.
oceanbreeze77
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no please post here. I have been trying to figure this out as well.
BrianLo
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The simple disposable white and blue medical masks are technically adequate (as in that’s all we would use in a patient room). Reusable cloth masks can be purchased with insets to put in essentially the same filter.
N95 are the “most effective” medical grade, but again not currently indicated for everyday usage and technically require mask fitting to know which brand actually fits your face, otherwise improperly fitted would confer no benefit. They are only indicated in case of aerosolized medical generating procedures. Which again no one in the general public would encounter.
I’d actually say moments of donning and doffing are the areas of problem for people. Having several disposable masks and using a new one after eating and hand hygiene is the best strategy as opposed to seeking out N95’s.
Everything beyond those two products are full of marketing gimmickry if they claim superiority. Whatever product you aren’t lead to frequently touch and adjust is the best option in reality.
KN95 and standard multiple layer surgical/medical masks are generally good and easier to find online. Cloth masks are best when they are multiple layers (over 2, or pocket with a filter) and snug. I find adjustable ear loops and a metal nose piece helps keep them snug. Quilted cotton and high thread count masks performed best in studies of cloth masks, and are readily available homemade on Etsy and similar places. I have some from Everbrand I really like (only ones that don’t fog my glasses ever) but they were expensive. General rule of thumb is that you shouldn’t be able to see light coming through a cloth mask when holding it up to a light.
"Florida is in the midst of a “viral resurgence” and the number of counties in the red zone — indicating a high rate of increase in COVID-19 cases and test positivity — has doubled in the last week, according to the most recent weekly White House Coronavirus Task Force report.
Ahead of the Thanksgiving holiday, when medical experts fear that family gatherings could lead to outbreaks across the country, more than 80% of Florida counties have moderate or high levels of community transmission, says the Nov. 15 report."
"According to the Nov. 15 report, which is the latest issued by the task force, the number of new cases per 100,000 people in Florida increased by 17% from the previous week. The positivity rate increased by less than 1% during that period, while the rate of PCR tests dropped by 13%.
Death rate per capita increased by 42% during that week, according to the report.
“Florida has seen an increase in new cases and an increase in test positivity. The hospitalization rates are difficult to interpret due to a decrease in reporting,” the document says."
www.orlandosentinel.com
Ahead of the Thanksgiving holiday, when medical experts fear that family gatherings could lead to outbreaks across the country, more than 80% of Florida counties have moderate or high levels of community transmission, says the Nov. 15 report."
"According to the Nov. 15 report, which is the latest issued by the task force, the number of new cases per 100,000 people in Florida increased by 17% from the previous week. The positivity rate increased by less than 1% during that period, while the rate of PCR tests dropped by 13%.
Death rate per capita increased by 42% during that week, according to the report.
“Florida has seen an increase in new cases and an increase in test positivity. The hospitalization rates are difficult to interpret due to a decrease in reporting,” the document says."
Ahead of Thanksgiving, Florida in midst of COVID-19 ‘viral resurgence,’ White House task force says
Florida is in the midst of a “viral resurgence” and the number of counties in the red zone — indicating a high rate of increase in COVID-19 cases and test positivity — has d…
www.orlandosentinel.com
GoofGoof
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Didn’t someone just recently post here that the surge in cases was all Miami? 80% of counties moderate or high levels of community spread, seems pretty much a statewide problem"Florida is in the midst of a “viral resurgence” and the number of counties in the red zone — indicating a high rate of increase in COVID-19 cases and test positivity — has doubled in the last week, according to the most recent weekly White House Coronavirus Task Force report.
Ahead of the Thanksgiving holiday, when medical experts fear that family gatherings could lead to outbreaks across the country, more than 80% of Florida counties have moderate or high levels of community transmission, says the Nov. 15 report."
"According to the Nov. 15 report, which is the latest issued by the task force, the number of new cases per 100,000 people in Florida increased by 17% from the previous week. The positivity rate increased by less than 1% during that period, while the rate of PCR tests dropped by 13%.
Death rate per capita increased by 42% during that week, according to the report.
“Florida has seen an increase in new cases and an increase in test positivity. The hospitalization rates are difficult to interpret due to a decrease in reporting,” the document says."
Ahead of Thanksgiving, Florida in midst of COVID-19 ‘viral resurgence,’ White House task force says
Florida is in the midst of a “viral resurgence” and the number of counties in the red zone — indicating a high rate of increase in COVID-19 cases and test positivity — has d…
Yikes, the opposite probably. I live in a rural area in Illinois, but not too far from the suburbs. The few times I've had to go in to the suburbs, compliance *seems* much higher than where I am. Obviously, that's completely anecdotal. Of course our numbers are ridiculous because most people around where I am hate our governor. Many many posts on FB about the alert on our phones today about Tier 3 mitigations and vows to ignore them.
Chi84
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Well that'll help. They're going to make each other sick to spite the governor?
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Kevin_W
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I'm not trying to be confrontational, but I see this posted a lot and it's not true. An improperly fitted N95 still would provide at least the same benefit as a cloth or even surgical mask. It's still blocking your exhalation and doing at least some filtering of inhalation.
Also, face mask fitting isn't rocket science (I say this as a guy whos had a full-face respirator and done fit testing for 20+ years).
DisneyCane
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I posted that Miami-Dade is the biggest problem and the case numbers there are very disproportionate to the population compared to the rest of the state.Didn’t someone just recently post here that the surge in cases was all Miami? 80% of counties moderate or high levels of community spread, seems pretty much a statewide problem
It's been that way for the whole pandemic and it is the county that has had the strictest restrictions throughout and a mask mandate for many months. Evidence that the worst spread is in households and private gatherings, not in businesses.
Only a month until vaccine EUA. If they get it to nursing home residents and it is 90% effective, over 1/3 of the Florida COVID deaths will stop occuring.
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