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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion
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Disney Analyst
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and the layoffs will just get worse...
Horizons '83
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Brutal... well @marni1971, good thing you got to go when you did!
GoofGoof
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If WDW is still making a positive contribution to operating margin I don’t see why they would close. Right now the resort would be more negative to cash flows if it was closed than with it open. That’s not taking into account any changes in demand due to spike or 2nd wave in FL.
It’s worth noting it’s not official yet. Someone is jumping the gun with the governments announcement. Although it’s to be expected.
Yes we were lucky.
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Tink242424
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The OSHA reference is interesting as it is possible it could apply but only to how COVID prevention is handled IN THE OFFICE. OSHA doesn't give any power over what people do on their own time. So I don't think it applies to the situation we were discussing.
I had made the argument that people should be allowed to do their own possible risk assessment of whether or not to partake in COVID "risky" activities and the other poster then replied with that can't be allowed since I have to go work and I have no other choice but to go and how that puts them at risk.
My objection is to there is no other option of going into their job. That just isn't the truth. No one in the US is FORCED to work anywhere. You CHOOSE to work there. Now, it might be a tough choice and I would argue that 99% of people have worked a job that they hated just because they had bills to pay but it is still a choice. It isn't a great choice but if it is that important to you then you need to do that. You can't force your values and standards on to others.
oceanbreeze77
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I for one am shocked about all of this. Who could have seen this coming /s
ImperfectPixie
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Neither can you.
Your speculation that people can just "get a job somewhere else" is pure fantasy even when the economy isn't in the crapper.
oceanbreeze77
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The economy has been slipping since the last year or 2. There were already too of talks about certain industries tanking.
Here are articles from 2019.
Explainer: Countdown to recession - What an inverted yield curve means
Yields on U.S. 10-year Treasury notes <US10YT=RR> slid below those on two-year notes <US2YT=RR> on Wednesday, delivering a reliable recession signal and sending shudders through global financial markets.
www.reuters.com
How the Recession of 2020 Could Happen (Published 2019)
The freeze-up in business confidence, caused in part by the trade war, could wind up affecting consumer confidence.
Slpy3270
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DLP is a non-essential business. The lockdown applies to *all* non-essential businesses. Of course it's going to close.
That’s not the point I was making. You know that.
I'm not sold on this, but very interesting reads - thank you for sharing.The economy has been slipping since the last year or 2. There were already too of talks about certain industries tanking.
Here are articles from 2019.
Explainer: Countdown to recession - What an inverted yield curve means
Yields on U.S. 10-year Treasury notes <US10YT=RR> slid below those on two-year notes <US2YT=RR> on Wednesday, delivering a reliable recession signal and sending shudders through global financial markets.
How the Recession of 2020 Could Happen (Published 2019)
The freeze-up in business confidence, caused in part by the trade war, could wind up affecting consumer confidence.www.nytimes.com
GimpYancIent
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Ok, interesting, what if, type of journalism. Not what actually happened pre-COVID. Like I said, interesting reading. Hey, you are one of those preppers, aren't you?The economy has been slipping since the last year or 2. There were already too of talks about certain industries tanking.
Here are articles from 2019.
Explainer: Countdown to recession - What an inverted yield curve means
Yields on U.S. 10-year Treasury notes <US10YT=RR> slid below those on two-year notes <US2YT=RR> on Wednesday, delivering a reliable recession signal and sending shudders through global financial markets.
How the Recession of 2020 Could Happen (Published 2019)
The freeze-up in business confidence, caused in part by the trade war, could wind up affecting consumer confidence.
GimpYancIent
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You thinking of getting in on the ground floor and buying?
Slpy3270
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The only people buying are hedge funds who don't give a rat's towards anything but instant profit.
seabreezept813
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So sad was it early in the pregnancy? Most data suggests the virus doesn’t affect the baby.A pregnant family friend of my bestie is hospitalized with COVID-19, and lost the twins she was carrying.
PLEASE. WEAR A MASK. SOCIAL DISTANCE. WASH YOUR HANDS.
GoofGoof
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The point is that employers have an obligation to make their workplace safe. I think that applies to Covid too. People have the right to work in a safe environment. So opening a bar with no restrictions on capacity and no face masks is IMHO making an unsafe work place for a bartender or waiter. Whether they are willing to take the risk is irrelevant. Same goes for meatpacking plants or supermarkets or any other venue.
You can’t come to work with an infectious disease like Covid. That’s not debatable, but I think what you are talking about is someone who doesn’t know if they are positive or not but has partaken in risky behavior that may have exposed them. Legally I can’t see how an employer can stop someone in that case from coming to work unless they have a policy in place stating that the action is prohibited. For example a hospital or school could say that if you travel to a hot spot and then come back you can’t come into work for 14 days. As long as that’s spelled out and well known there’s nothing illegal or wrong about it. Could an employer ban people from going to bars, unlikely, but I do know a school teacher whose principal asked all the staff to not go to a large group gathering for Thanksgiving to protect each other. I don’t know if there’s a punishment for not following it, but the request was made. Outside of the legality of stopping someone from taking risky actions, I do feel it’s a bit selfish to regularly expose yourself to Covid and then go into a work environment where you could infect others. Just my opinion. Others can feel free to disagree.
GoofGoof
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You talking about all of 2020...or just today
"We are happy to announce that The Walt Disney Family Museum plans to reopen to the public on Thursday, November 5. We missed you and cannot wait to see you at the museum soon! Come experience Walt Disney’s uplifting life story through our innovative galleries, memorable artifacts, and original artworks.
Beginning Thursday, November 5, the museum will be open Thursday through Sunday from 10am to 5:30pm, with last gallery entry at 4:15pm, and will be closed Monday through Wednesday for the remainder of the year."
www.waltdisney.org
Beginning Thursday, November 5, the museum will be open Thursday through Sunday from 10am to 5:30pm, with last gallery entry at 4:15pm, and will be closed Monday through Wednesday for the remainder of the year."
Visitor Information | The Walt Disney Family Museum
www.waltdisney.org
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